Gary, I couldn't get oak leaves but did manage to acquire beech leaves which serves the same purpose in a tank. My 36" tank I housed Taeniacara candidi, the floor of this tank was 'littered' with the leaves. This gave great security for the fish and their fry. The leaves plus bogwood makes a very 'natural' looking habitat, the dwarfs love it. Helen > I have a killie-like story about some apistos. About 2 months ago, I set > up a 30 inch 23 gallon tank for two species of apisto, as I had a > temporary overcrowding problem. To manage any aggro, I threw in some of > my dried oak leaves, from the secret stock in the bag under the njisseni > tank. I had cf juruense and cf gibbiceps in there, a pair of each. The > gibbs started to beat up on the juruense, so after two weeks of their > having been together, I moved the gibbs to a larger tank. The female > juruense died of injuries, and I left the spectacular male on his own > with 5 N beckfordi pencils for a month, til I got a new female today. > After I put her in, I suddenly saw a gaggle of half a dozen juvenile cf. > gibbiceps come cruising out, healthy, happy and hefty. I guess they were > easier to breed than I thought... > It says something for a leafy habitat though. > Gary > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!