David Sanchez wrote: > > I have wanted to try this Helen! Do the leaves rot? do > you boil them or anything or just plop them right in? > I once thought of dipping them in some kind of resin > to keep them from rotting in the tank. I'd like to try > this I guess I 've been a bit overly concerned > regarding how they might effect the water quality. BTW > how are the A.atahualpa and the pucculapaensis? any > luck yet? > I collect my oak leaves from the bottom of the pond where I get my caddis and mayfly larvae. The "tea" color is already soaked out of them after prolonged immersion, and of course they are "sunk" already. I boil them for 10 minutes. Boiling longer softens them too much. Plecostomus munch them, but Apistos think they are caves and seem to appreciate them. They last a long time, but eventually fragment. Dave Satchell ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!