Hi All, I read in the Oct.99 issue of Cichlid news that Astanax type tetras are ruthless fry predators. BTW, there is a cool article on A.mendezi by Romer. I always use pencil fish, young white clouds, or the tiny characoids like R.maculatus as dithers. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!