Hi Folks I have 5 Nannacara aureocephalus in a 50 gal tank, along with a few other dwarfs. The smallest is about 3.5 cm TL and the biggest two are about 4.5 -5 cm TL I have had a female lay eggs (twice) and guard them but couldnt tell if they were fertilised or not due to the hole she layed them in. None of the fish i have look like the pic of the male in Linke & Staeck. They all look quite similar, and all show at least sometimes the dark checkered pattern above the lateral line but I dont know whether this is definately a female only feature. Is there any way I can positively sex them? At waht age/size do the males start to colour up? Have I really ended up with 5 girls? Thanks Steph ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!