Max First thing is if the eggs turned into wigglers the female most likely moved them to a different spot to guard them. Give her a couple of days to see if she doesn't come out toting around a nice little bunch of fry. It takes a couple of days after hatching before the fry are free swimming, so this might be the case. Secondly I don't think a water change would cause the pair to eat the eggs. I've never had this happen to me anyways. Thirdly, hate to admit this but every once in awhile I get a male Cacatuoides that just loves the taste of eggs or wigglers. Give them a few spawns to get the hang of it if this is the case. Young pairs sometimes need time to learn how to raise fry properly. Don't give up yet. It's a cool sight watching your apistos raising their fry. I picked up a new pair of Cacatuoides double reds in Cleveland at the OCA extravaganza and they already are towing fry around the tank. They are doing good on their first spawn for me. Hope you have good luck John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!