Has anyone on the list had any experience with Teleocichla spp.? I've got a group of 4 (2 pairs?) which are getting the best of care (I think), and I'd be interested to know what success (or failures) people have had and what their husbandry techniques were. Pete Liptrot Bolton Museum Aquarium Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE 01204 332200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!