Any advice on how to deal with a mcmasteri pair in which the female (I'm presuming) eats the new fry? I've had this pair for about 18 months and both are large, healthy, happy looking fish. They spawn very regularly - about every three weeks. The eggs appear to develop all right and then start to hatch. The female seems to be collecting the fry in a depression inside the brood chamber. Then next time I look, nothing. I have never noticed the male swooping in - he seems a gentle sort on the whole. But one or other must be taking them. I've left them to it hoping eventually they would start to raise fry but am now wondering whether to experiment with removing male or both. Question is whether to go for removing both? Or is it likely just to be the male that is the problem? And if I take out both, should I leave it until just before the eggs hatch or will it make no difference? Finally, if I put the female back in after the fry are swimming about, would they inevitably get snapped up or might she then adopt them? Other details: The pair were spawning in a community tank. Thinking it might be the presence of too many other fish that were causing the problem, I have had them in their own 15 gallon tank for past two spawns. Tank is well planted and furnished. They have eight baby cardinals for dithers, temp is 28 degrees C, pH is 6.5, water is RO and very soft. ------------------------------------------------------------ from John McCrone - Science Writer mail to: j.mccrone@btinternet.com web site: http://www.btinternet.com/~neuronaut/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!