I would just get a clown loach or some other type of loach. I don't think they are a susceptible to ich as any other fish. Copper will kill snails, but then, it might also kill you fish. If they get ich, then it was there all along, so just treat it until it goes away, and all your fish will be better off. See you at noon with fish. Susan -----Original Message----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of John Ruhland Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:24 PM To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat Subject: Re: pH/heavy metals (was) Re: [GSAS-Member] Free fish food, or trade On another note, as I understand it, pH and hardness are separate measures. Are there any fish that prefer alkaline water that is soft, or is in nature alkaline water always hard? One more question, someone mentioned that having a certain type of water discourages snails. In one of my planted aquariums, I now have many snails and snail eggs. I'd love to know what I can do before all these eggs release snails.I know they need minerals to make shells, but my plants need minerals as well. Are there any really easy to care for fish that eat snails. I know clown loaches are susceptible to ich, so prefer to avoid them. Thank you, John On Feb 25, 2005, at 12:21 PM, haika@drizzle.com wrote: > I suppose the bottom line is whether I was able to raise the pH (and > increase the hardness) of the water in my Endler's tank. I use NovAqua > when I do water changes...and I used crushed coral, cuttlebones and an > occasional pinch of Epsom salts (when I remembered) and was able to > accomplish my goals (shrug). I raised the pH despite my use of a water > conditioner formulated to remove heavy metals (shrug). I wasn't using > dolomite, but I WAS adding minerals. > > Betty Goetz > >> Betty, >> Most of the chelating agents bind both heavy metals and minerals, thus >> soften >> the water. If you want to consider using dolomite, and then chelate >> out >> the lead, >> you've also chelated out what you wanted the dolomite for in the first >> place. > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > Dr. John F. Ruhland The Natural Health Medical Clinic 4002 - 25th Avenue S, Seattle, WA 98108 206-723-4891 www.drruhland.com _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member