Re: [GSAS-Member] Spotless Gold Killi Question

[matt kaufman <igotadose@hotmail.com>]

Sigh.
.
 
There is a strain of Aphyosemion australe Orange (itself, a "class 1 mutant" of 
the original, wild and quite attractive form) that's now in 'production' called 
'spotless orange.' So, it's a mutant, of a mutant.
There's also Aphyosemion australe Gold(itself ....). Usually, the 'gold' 
Australe are lighter colored than 'orange' Australe, but people are very sloppy 
about names and I've seen fish I'd consider 'gold' australe that were orange, 
and vice-versa, though of late, I mostly see Orange australe. 
 
I haven't heard of 'Spotless Gold'. Perhaps, it too, is a mutant form of the 
already mutant "Gold Australe." Or simply a misnaming of the Mutant II 
"Spotless Orange" australe. 
 
There's no accepted standards on any of this, so you're dealing with what some 
hobbyist or breeder thought was an interesting fish. AKA, for instance, doesn't 
have any naming standards for cultivars.
 
And, as you rightfully point out, there is a strain of Gardneri N'sukka that 
showed up in hobbyist tanks as 'Gold Gardneri (so, a class 1 mutant). There are 
other strains of Gardneri like 'Albino Gardneri' (another class 1 mutant.)
 
But, in nature, there aren't *any* gold killies. Non. Zip. Zero. Nada. Gold 
killies are like, well, Flowerhorns (uggh!) and bubble eye goldfish and fancy 
bettas. Mutants that have been selectively chosen for their "attractiveness."
 
Here's what I'd do if I were interested in perpetuating this. Select the most 
attractive killies to your eye that you see at the shop. Breed them till you 
get 'true' (in your opinion) lines that provide the aesthetic you desire, and 
call them "Shango Los's line of nice orange australe." This has as much 
gravitas as Spotless/stripeless/orange/gold/flowerhorn australe as anything 
else.
 
Matt (my sentiments leaking through. Keep wild forms, they're very attractive 
:-) )
 
 



> From: Shango@shangolos.com> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 
> 2007 14:53:02 -0700> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Spotless Gold Killi Question> > > 
> > A Place for Pets has a couple of pair of gorgeous Spotless Gold (Aph> 
> austral) killi. I am looking at them online though and the photos I see> 
> online show all sorts of body markings that are not on the fish I saw. The> 
> pics online make it look more like a gold Gardneri.> > > > 
> http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_australe.php> > > > Am I confusing two 
> different species or do all those body markings come as> he matures because 
> he is "spotless" right now? I like the idea of the> bright solid orange killi 
> and want it to stay that way. Please let me know> if anyone can help me sort 
> this out.> > > > Thanks> > Shango> > 
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