Re: [GSAS-Member] Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be.

[Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>]

Hero:

This action is completely normal for the fist couple of spawns.  Keep watching 
though as the parents tend to move the egg/wigglers from time to time.

In practicing for spawning rams, I raised a few angels.  I like:

* A dedicated bare bottom tank.
* Methylene blue in the water to help prevent fungus.
* A live food system ready to go.

I prefer baby brine as they have the least ick factor but feeding in excess 
tends to drive down water quality.  In a bare bottom you can better remove the 
waste.  I find that wigglers also get stuck in the gravel if too coarse.  At 
first I would pull ~1 gal of water out a day and replace from my healthy 
planted tank.

Your fish will spawn again so be ready!

-Paul

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, HIRO TAK wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
>  I guess this time wasn't meant to be.  This morning, I notice the male is 
> not on the stone and abandon the nest and there are only like 1/3 of eggs 
> left.  I think the female recycled them.
>  I don't know if she did it because the eggs are no good or what.  But I 
> think this maybe the case.
> I never saw the eggs turned to milky white or grew fungus but they never 
> changed color either.  They seem stay clear colored.  There are still like 20 
> clear ones left but nobody fanning or hovering over.  So I think he gave them 
> up taking care of them.
>
>  And that made me think.
>  Was the male too young to fertilized the eggs?
>  Or the water wasn't suited to eggs to develop?
>  Or maybe water have too much movement?
>
>  I think the water should good enough since our tap is suppose to be less 
> than 220 PPM(according to Seattle water), I don't know what exactly in the 
> term of GH.  And I still don't have the test for the hardness.  And I even 
> have water go over the bag of peat so it should soften up the water.
>  And water movement should be ok also since the tank is one of those fancy 
> combo type with trickle filter type built in.  And water drop from the top 
> gently and I even have some floating plants(frog bit).
>  So I think the male may need more time.  Although he showed me he is good 
> Dad who protect the eggs for at least a day.
>
>  So I think I just let them be and see how they do in next few spawns.  And 
> keep them well with good food and frequent water change.
>
>  If after that and still do not work, I might do something about.
>
>  So no BAP of Gold Rams for me  this time.
>
>
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