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Re: [GSAS-Member] Need advice about my Gold Rams



Yes it does sound grim. Normally I would add some salt and increase  
the temp and leave him in the same tank. I think I would still  
recommend increasing the temp a couple degrees. Not sure about salt  
but I bet it would be ok for the eggs as well as papa.
Good Luck,
Linda

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linda@bozuk.org

On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:25 PM, HIRO TAK <neon98102@yahoo.com> wrote:

>  Thanks for the advice Linda,
>
>  But he looks not good.  He was not eating much and now he is as  
> white as ghost. He also have tougher time to swim.
>  I had been keeping the tank around 80F.  I did crank it up and hope  
> it makes difference.  But he does not look good.  And I have no idea  
> what cause it.
>  I don't think he'll make it either I move it or not.  And doing so  
> and I don't want to disturb the female too much either.  I hope he  
> left some off springs.  Although he is way too young to die but he  
> seems to heading to the water in the sky.
>  I just hope some eggs will hatch and he is not dying for vain.
>  Although some of the eggs are getting too milky white, I am hoping  
> the some of the clearer eggs will develop and hatch.
>
>  I think she will be a widow and have to find another husband.
> Sometime I wish the fish can talk and tell me what is wrong with them.
>
>  Thanks again for the help Linda.
> Linda Knapp <linda@bozuk.org> wrote: Is he eating? I like to feed  
> well before and after spawning - I use
> frozen blood worms.
> You might increase the temp some also Rams like it warm - 82-84  
> even....
> They are annoyingly fragile though.
> Good Luck!
> Linda
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2007, at 9:12 AM, HIRO TAK wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>>  I hope someone her could help me out.
>>  As you know I have tiny Gold Rams spawned last week.  And once
>> again, they laid  eggs on Wednesday night.  And this time I was
>> there to see part of the ritual.  Anyway, the thing is the Dad have
>> been pale colored although he did part and go over the eggs.  I am
>> sure he spread/smeared his seeds on the eggs.  But he has not
>> colored up and she is the one fanning and guarding the eggs this
>> time around.  Although whatever the reason, he may not well.  I
>> didn't see the female pick on him or nothing but he is still pale
>> colored and stay at the corner behind the sponge filter.  And they
>> did laid the eggs on the plastic part of top of the sponge filter,
>> by the way.
>>
>>  And I am wondering if I should remove the male even it would be
>> tough to do so.  But it probably better to do so before the eggs
>> hatch I imagine.  And they should hatch either tonight or tomorrow
>> morning or so according to the web site.  Or just remove them alone
>> since she is not picking him.  I did about 1/3 water change
>> yesterday.  Since I thought the water quality maybe the issue.  But
>> he still acting same way.
>>
>>
>>  I hope someone have the advice for me.
>>
>>  Thanks.
>>
>>
>>                 Hiro
>>
>> P.S.  Unfortunately I think the little fry from the Celestial Pearl
>> Danio may have been eaten by the parents.  And I think I need to
>> set up the breeding tank instead of hands off survival of fittest
>> set up.
>>
>>
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