Since there have been some good positives mentioned about canister filters, I thought I would mention one thing I don't really like about them - failure type. If most kinds of filters fail, they simply stop filtering. I've seen canister filters (especially ones using bottom-drains, or that have long in-tank extensions) break in ways that meant a flooded house and a tank's worth of dead fish...especially the kinds that use "quick connect" attachments to make it easy to remove the canister. It's never happened to me (and I have used a canister filter), so I'm not saying they are likely to fail when properly set up, but I'd be curious to hear if any of the canister-filter users in the group have ever had issues. I'd also add that I've had good luck using open-celled foam pads from Joann fabrics for my DIY sponge or wet/dry filters. (and polly pillow batting for media, and polly cloth for nets/breeder boxes). It's quite a bit cheaper than most of the things I see in the shops, and works well. (I rarely do water chanages, and never seem to have problems). If you get the local coupon fliers, Joann's regularly sends out 50% off coupons, which make things even cheaper. Cliff > I don't remember where I read it but you can easily DIY a prefilter if you > wanted. I went to petco and bought the smallest sponge filter insert for > a > hang on the edge filter. When I got home I took the sponge and held it > vertically and cut into it with a knife and then stuck this slightly > modified sponge at the of the filter intake. So far so good... I didn't > want > any of Hiro's CPD fry going up into the filter! > > Berg _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member