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Re: [GSAS-Member] Do Jo/Was Goldfish compatibility
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- Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Do Jo/Was Goldfish compatibility
- From: Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_loach
Here is Wikipedia
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" <gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 12:27 PM
> Thanks Shamus! I am resisting looking it up because I am
> supposed to be working... ;+)
> I will tonight though!
> Connie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shamus Young<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com>
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
>
>
> Connie:
> I can't cut and paste with this java ssh client I use
> to read this account
> from work, but it's
> Misgurnus anguilicaudatus, the dojo or weather loach.
> there's a wikipedia page.
>
> Shamus
>
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Connie Carlson wrote:
>
> > Again, please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly
> are Do Jos?? Can someone post a link to
> fishlore/fishgeeks/fishbase or throw out the scientific
> name so I can look them up? All this talk about them has
> me mighty curious.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Connie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> Trish<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com>>
> > To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member
> chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish compatibility
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm<http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm<http://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm%3Chttp://www.fishlore.com/Profiles-Corydoras.htm>>
> >
> > I found this web site about temp for Corys....My
> Goldfish tank is around 70 or so in winter months with no
> heat. and of course warmer in summer, about 74 or so...The
> corys are fine.
> >
> > Your right Do Jos almost seem bullet proof.....and
> as cute as anything!!! Gotta love their faces!
> >
> > Trish
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu%3Cmailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Kypros Hostetter
> <Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu<mailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu%3Cmailto:Hostetter2003@lawnet.ucla.edu>>>
> > > Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> > > To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society
> member chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com%3Cmailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>>
> > > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:57 AM
> > > Trish wrote:
> > > > Shamus-
> > > >
> > > > If the gravel is smooth then the Cories,
> and Do Jos
> > > would be fine. They would make a good clean
> up crew with
> > > the food which makes it to the bottom....The
> Do Jos like to
> > > bury themselves, and just have their heads
> poking out, its
> > > very cute. I have sand as substrate, but have
> kept them
> > > with gravel as well, and they were fine. But
> they prefer
> > > the sand. The Goldfish is fine with either,
> and picks at
> > > both....
> > > >
> > > > Yes the cories are tropical, but they
> can withstand
> > > being without heat...my tanks stay at about
> 70 in the
> > > winter, and warmer in the summer, so temp
> wise they are
> > > fine.... Do Jos as well as Goldfish can go
> much
> > > colder.....
> > > >
> > > > OH and as to salt,its fine with the
> Goldfish, Do Jos,
> > > and the Cories....I have been using salt for
> years...great
> > > preventative, for diseases....I use salt on
> all my tanks.
> > > >
> > > > I would add the Do Jos and Cories,
> before adding
> > > another Goldfish.
> > > >
> > > > At least she did take the larger tank,
> this will help
> > > alot. Now just hope she keeps up on water
> changes.....this
> > > is the key, water changes, make for healthy
> and happy
> > > fishies....
> > > >
> > > > Trish
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus Young
> > >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com%3Cmailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> From: Shamus Young
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com%3Cmailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Goldfish
> compatibility
> > > >> To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium
> Society member
> > > chat"
> <gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com%3Cmailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com>>>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:22
> PM
> > > >> Thanks to all who responded.
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't think there's any
> chance of
> > > getting a
> > > >> larger tank. It took enough
> > > >> cajoling to get her to take a free
> 20g tank to
> > > move the
> > > >> fish out of it's
> > > >> 3g.
> > > >>
> > > >> I look at this more as damage
> control than
> > > advising her on
> > > >> the perfect
> > > >> goldfish setup. The fish is in a
> better home.
> > > If she
> > > >> wants companions
> > > >> and is set on getting them, then
> steer her towards
> > > fish
> > > >> that are actually
> > > >> compatible.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll push the zebras over white
> clouds.
> > > I'm a
> > > >> little reluctant to push
> > > >> corys, since I've always thought
> of them as
> > > tropical.
> > > >> I also seem to
> > > >> recall that she's got standard
> aquarium gravel
> > > in
> > > >> there, and IIRC, you
> > > >> want a fine substrate with Corys so
> they don't
> > > damage
> > > >> their barbels on
> > > >> the gravel. I'll confirm the
> substrate
> > > compatibility
> > > >> before I push
> > > >> loaches or corys.
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anyone tried mosquito fish? The
> cold water
> > > livebearer?
> > > >> it sounds
> > > >> like they might move too slow. I
> guess there
> > > would be
> > > >> concerns about salt
> > > >> content of the water. I don't
> know what
> > > goldfish like
> > > >> regarding salt, but
> > > >> from back in the dark ages when I
> raised
> > > livebearers, I
> > > >> added salt.
> > > >>
> > > >> Shamus
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Trish wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Shamus-
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have goldfish, in a 55 gallon
> now. And with
> > > them, I
> > > >>>
> > > >> keep the weather
> > > >>
> > > >>> loaches, and also some
> cories....with no
> > > heater, all
> > > >>>
> > > >> get along just
> > > >>
> > > >>> fine, and have been together in
> different
> > > tanks
> > > >>>
> > > >> through about 5 years
> > > >>
> > > >>> now....started smaller of
> course, as small as
> > > a 5
> > > >>>
> > > >> gallon with the
> > > >>
> > > >>> goldies, and up to a 30 long,
> with weater
> > > loaches, and
> > > >>>
> > > >> now to the 55
> > > >>
> > > >>> gal.....I have 6 long finned
> goldies, and I
> > > think 5
> > > >>>
> > > >> weather loaches,
> > > >>
> > > >>> along with 5 or 6
> cories......Goldfish are
> > > quiet
> > > >>>
> > > >> dirty, so have 2
> > > >>
> > > >>> filters on this tank, a
> submersable fluval,
> > > and also a
> > > >>>
> > > >> magnum canister
> > > >>
> > > >>> filter.....so good filteration
> is a must with
> > > >>>
> > > >> goldies.....
> > > >>
> > > >>> Now with your friend, she has a
> 20 gal with 1
> > > golfish,
> > > >>>
> > > >> they say goldies
> > > >>
> > > >>> need about 10 gal per fish, so
> she COULD add
> > > another,
> > > >>>
> > > >> but given since
> > > >>
> > > >>> she tried that already, and the
> one killed it,
> > > maybe
> > > >>>
> > > >> adding another
> > > >>
> > > >>> wouldnt be good.....she could
> add say 2 or 3
> > > common Do
> > > >>>
> > > >> Jo's {weather
> > > >>
> > > >>> loach}, and say 4 cories, this
> would be about
> > > >>>
> > > >> it.....BUT to keep in mind
> > > >>
> > > >>> a larger tank for the future.
> The Do Jos like
> > > to be in
> > > >>>
> > > >> groups, the more
> > > >>
> > > >>> the better, as well as the
> cories...no less
> > > than 3 I
> > > >>>
> > > >> would guess.....The
> > > >>
> > > >>> green cories, seem to do the
> best with the
> > > colder
> > > >>>
> > > >> water.....from what I
> > > >>
> > > >>> have experienced....I have
> several other
> > > types, but
> > > >>>
> > > >> the green seem to
> > > >>
> > > >>> adapt the best.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any other question feel free to
> ask!!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Trish
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Shamus
> Young
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com%3Cmailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> From: Shamus Young
> > >
> <machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com<mailto:machismo@eskimo.com%3Cmailto:machismo@eskimo.com>>>
> > > >>>> Subject: [GSAS-Member]
> Goldfish
> > > compatibility
> > > >>>> To: "Greater Seattle
> Aquarium Society
> > > member
> > > >>>>
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> > > >>
> > > >>>> Date: Thursday, July 10,
> 2008, 12:12 AM
> > > >>>> Howdy:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I've got a friend who
> inherited a
> > > goldfish in
> > > >>>>
> > > >> a small
> > > >>
> > > >>>> tank, circa 3 gal.
> > > >>>> She's accquired a 20
> gallon tank with
> > > an
> > > >>>>
> > > >> eclipse hood,
> > > >>
> > > >>>> and moved it into
> > > >>>> that, which is a positive
> step. It's
> > > about
> > > >>>>
> > > >> 3"
> > > >>
> > > >>>> now. I don't think
> it's a
> > > >>>> special type. No long fins
> or weird eye
> > > things,
> > > >>>>
> > > >> but I
> > > >>
> > > >>>> don't know
> > > >>>> goldfish. To me, it looks
> like a large
> > > feeder
> > > >>>>
> > > >> goldfish.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> There's nothing
> > > >>>> in there now but a few
> decorations. She
> > > tried to
> > > >>>>
> > > >> introduce
> > > >>
> > > >>>> another
> > > >>>> goldfish, but the one she
> has killed it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> She wants to add companions.
> I've
> > > pointed
> > > >>>>
> > > >> out the
> > > >>
> > > >>>> temperature thing, and
> > > >>>> I know a few cold water fish
> like white
> > > clouds
> > > >>>>
> > > >> and zebra
> > > >>
> > > >>>> danios, but don't
> > > >>>> know if they are actually
> compatible with
> > > >>>>
> > > >> goldfish. The
> > > >>
> > > >>>> one article on
> > > >>>> goldfish on the krib
> didn't really
> > > talk about
> > > >>>> companions, and I got mixed
> > > >>>> messages about it by just
> googling it (go
> > > >>>>
> > > >> figure). One
> > > >>
> > > >>>> site recommends
> > > >>>> zebra danios. The other
> says that they
> > > will
> > > >>>>
> > > >> out-compete
> > > >>
> > > >>>> the goldfish for
> > > >>>> food. Another site
> recommended weather
> > > loaches.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> She seems determined to put
> some
> > > companions in
> > > >>>>
> > > >> there. In
> > > >>
> > > >>>> an attempt to
> > > >>>> avoid trial and error and
> get an informed
> > > >>>>
> > > >> opinion, I'm
> > > >>
> > > >>>> asking the group
> > > >>>> for recommendations for
> goldfish
> > > companions.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any ideas?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Shamus
> > > >>>>
> > >
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> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I myself would add the Dojo but not the
> cories. To me the
> > > temp would be
> > > on the low end for the cories, so if the
> fishkeeper is
> > > inexperienced,
> > > why not use Dojos. It is my experience that
> they are
> > > pretty much
> > > bulletproof. I have regular gravel, not fine
> sand and the
> > > dojos do fine.
> > > they do like a hiding space, but they are
> pretty tough and
> > > my dojo does
> > > not take any guff from the goldies at all.
> > >
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