Re: [GSAS-Member] frozen bloodworms (was) Re: Was Bulk chemicals - now Salts...and fin rot in guppies...

["Tom Watson" <onefish2fish@comcast.net>]

I buy them live.  They usually come in portions of about 2-3 tablespoons.
Fish love them and if you over feed the excess will live in the substrate
where your fish learn to hunt them.

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[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Laurel Larsen
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:46 PM
To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] frozen bloodworms (was) Re: Was Bulk chemicals -
now Salts...and fin rot in guppies...

tubifex are usually sold freeze dried.  They come in little cubes that  
almost never absorb water unless you smoosh them.
On Jul 28, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Tom Watson wrote:

> I have gone into a LFS and asked for Tubifex and was met with a  
> blind stare.
> When I described them the employee said "Oh, you mean blood worms."   
> I won't
> name the store...
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Steev Ward
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:37 PM
> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] frozen bloodworms (was) Re: Was Bulk  
> chemicals -
> now Salts...and fin rot in guppies...
>
> I on the other hand ALWAYS hear people refer to Black Tubifex  
> (Blackworms)
> as
> Bloodworms. That's what they call them in Asia. Then the Betta people
> started calling
> them that.
> Just google Live Bloodworms and see what you get.
>
> Like this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ixqvDq4ROg
>
> It's almost funny (almost) when you see it on a discussion board and  
> one
> person is
> saying that they threw a bunch of them in their tank, and now it  
> formed a
> "carpet" of
> long waving worms and another person is talking about midges that  
> might come
> out of the
> tank.
>
>
> Steev
>
>
>
> --- matt kaufman <igotadose@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've *never* heard of tubifex worms referred to as bloodworms.  
>> Sometimes
> red tubifex
>> where the blackworms we get in shops are sometimes called black  
>> tubifex.
> Bloodworms
>> and tubifex worms are completely different and look different. I've  
>> never
> heard of
>> frozen bloodworms being referred to as tubifex, or vice-versa.  
>> Sometimes
> bloodworms
>> are referred to as 'red mosquito larvae' esp. by european  
>> aquarists, who
> refer to
>> glassworms as 'white mosquito larvae.' All are larvae, but  
>> bloodworms and
> glassworms
>> are not mosquito larvae.
>>
>> Bloodworms may be harvested from clean conditions, but the  
>> processing is
> the problem
>> - they're left out in the sun by the s. e. asian packers, start to  
>> die,
> get frozen,
>> get shipped (maybe thaw/freeze a few times,) etc. I've known several
> long-time killi
>> keepers who don't feed bloodworms because of the reactions they (the
> fishkeepers)
>> have to the worms themselves, usually severe allergic reactions.
>>
>> It's not like any pet fish food processing is overseen by any  
>> regulatory
> or
>> compliance agency. It's 'you pays your money, and you takes your  
>> chances.'
> Some
>> manufacturers are better than others, but they vary too.
>>
>>
>> One should always check that the frozen food you're buying hasn't  
>> thawed
> and
>> refrozen. If it looks 'disfigured' in the packet, avoid it. The only
> variety I use is
>> the Hikari one, and again, only sparingly. I also never thaw them out
> completely, I
>> rinse in cold water till useable and feed - I'd rather not get the
> bacteria going
>> again. And I keep almost exclusively killies, which are small, but  
>> robust
>> insectivores, so they're used to a bit of bacteria in their food.  
>> Plus I
> always
>> acclimate new foods with 'a little a day' and watch for any signs of
> stress.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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