Re: [GSAS-Member] Butterflies... local creatures to raise

["Larry Litten" <LLITTEN@wecon.com>]

Erik,
It is that time of year when you could gather Crane fly larvae from
the turf (when it is not under snow). I would seriously doubt if
anyone would have an issue with collecting this invasive critter. The
kids might think these "giant mosquitoes" are interesting.
http://whatcom.wsu.edu/cranefly/

Larry Litten
Wilbur-Ellis Co.
(206)310-5530
llitten@wecon.com

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[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Erik Olson
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:43 PM
To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Butterflies... local creatures to raise

Make no mistake, I understand where Matt's coming from, because it IS
an issue that comes up all the time in this (tropical fish) hobby.
I'm sure our speaker on Tuesday will have some stories about the
problems encountered in the rift lakes due to purposeful or accidental
introduction of "harmless" food fish.  And this is so important to
teach to the kids as well...

On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, macker wrote:

> I used to have butterflies as a young kid, bug zoo, ant farms, the 
> works. We used to order the cacoons via mail (which are raised 
> mostly), so don't see what the big deal is. It is a great experience

> for any kid. Pretty sure society and environment have much bigger 
> problems than a kid who wants some butterflies.
>
> - macker
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Betty Goetz <haika@drizzle.com>
wrote:
>
>> Erik: I agree and I was thinking what you wrote. As a kid, I had my

>> insect jar zoo and I think that was part of growing up to be a 
>> biologist. By the way, I have ladybugs inside this winter (not on 
>> purpose) and they have helped keep the aphids on the hibiscus under

>> control. I think they came inside with the hibiscus in the fall
since they were out on the deck.
>>
>> Betty Goetz
>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, matt kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please, leave the amphibians alone. Don't raise butterflies. Let 
>>>> them do what they're designed to do.
>>>
>>> Couldn't one say the exact same thing about wild-collecting fish?
>>>
>>> The kid is already learning about invasives with things like our 
>>> frogs -- he knows that if what we got were bullfrogs, then we
can't let em go.
>>> He's learned firsthand that we can't keep a pet ladybug in the
house 
>>> because there's no food supply in the form of aphids this time of
year.
>>> We're probably going to grow a bunch of butterfly-friendly plants
in 
>>> the front yard to attract species.  But heck yeah, we'll raise
them.  
>>> There's something really cool about seeing the whole process
firsthand.
>>>
>>>    - Erik
>>>
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