Just another opinion on kribensis: We had a 55g planted tank at work with a breeding pair that killed anything and everything in the tank except a few loaches that ended up hiding 99.9% of the time. My favorite MELLOW cichlids that are easy to breed: Aequidens curviceps. I know they've been renamed (maybe multiple times since I learned the name)....but I'm too lazy to look up the new taxonomy. Same with Nannacara anomala, and various Crenicara spp. (checkerboard cichlids). All are dwarf and were pretty mellow for me but I didn't breed either of them. I did keep an Apistograma pair for awhile (less than a week) in a heavily planted 10 g tank but the female killed the male quickly (sigh). She lived for many years as an Endler's fry predator....I called her JAWS. I've kept all kinds of cichlids and currently vowed to stay away and learn about calmer more mellow fish since I'm restricting myself to tanks 29g or less in the house. But if I went back to the 'dark side'....it'd probably be with 'curviceps'. Betty Goetz _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member