Well, things seem to be slowing down a little. I would imagine that James is hard at work on the new website and most of the rest of us are licking our wounds from the recent battles. While, I don't want to stir up anything new, I thought I would take this lull in the fray to ask a question about the AGA. If this is too far off topic James, please be gentle with me, okay? Once upon a time, I was an AGA member, but I really don't remember when or for how long. I guess I could go back to my old copies of the TAG and piece it together, but it isn't that important. In any event, while reading all of the posts on this list over the past few weeks, I often got the feeling that there were some seriously disgruntled former AGA members amongst us. I also know there are some current, loyal members who have often defended the organization (I got chastised by one who mistakenly thought I was disrespecting the organization). And, of course, I think James P. has a healthy respect of them as well. I guess I am in sort of limbo about the organization. I do know that while I was a member, the TAG was often not as big as I wished and it was often very late arriving. But then, so are some other magazines that are published by hobbyist organizations, (specifically, Discus and Cichlids groups). I always rationalized that you have to put up with such things because of costs, volunteers, etc I would imagine that the real reason I didn't rejoin was that I was never reminded that my subscription was about to run out. Just to be sure that I hadn't signed up for three years and forgotten about it, I emailed the AGA to ask if I was still a member. After hearing nothing, I contacted Karen R. and was able to find out that I was no longer a member. The AGA person who responded, told me that he only has membership records going back as far as last month???? I am sure this person is a volunteer and I believe he is new as well. So, I was not too disturbed by this. Should I have been? One of this list's members commented that she thought she was a member because she sent in her membership fees in January. However, she added that she had never heard anything back from them. So, she was not really sure if she was a member. I have heard others wondering out loud if the organization really existed, or whether it just a phantom organization . Does anyone know for sure? Karen, if you are back in town now, could you give us some information that might ease some of our fears here? How about you Erik? Should I wait until I get my first TAG? Will that explain all of this to me? >From all that James has written about the AGA sponsoring the Showcase/Contest, I have the feeling that the AGA is alive and well with a wonderful reputation in the industry. I am in no position to question that. I would really like to think that there is an AGA and they are out there doing constructive things for the hobby. However, from what I have heard on this list, I am beginning to wonder about it. Does anyone have any information that would shed some light on this situation? Does anyone know how many members there are? Are they sponsoring other events, etc., etc. If no one else is concerned, and the little rumblings I have been detecting don't really mean anything, so be it. I think I can live with it. Ken Guin AGA member (and, as right now, not sorry I rejoined for three years) ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@aquatic-gardeners.org with "unsubscribe aga-contest" in the body of the message. To subscribe to the digest version, add "subscribe aga-contest-digest" in the same message. Old messages are available at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-contest