On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, David Lass wrote:
I would like to remind you that the reason all we did was buy the magazines was that we did not want to get into any pickle of being liable for any monies that Dave owed to authors etc. If we do get the rights to put PAMs onto CDs and sell them we should be very careful that we in no way assume any obligation of PAM.
Thanks for this reminder David... This issue about more author pay has been worrying me ever since Karenposted about it being not legal to reproduce given author's contracts and such. I know, odds are that no authors are going to really come after us, but TAG is very clear that we reprint ad infinitum and don't pay authors at all.
Karen, you were one of those authors. Do you remember anything about the arrangement for WRITING for PAM? Did it say anything about reprints, or have any limitations to the first print run?
---- The casual reader may stop now. The rest of this post is more history and detail than anyone other than Scott will enjoy reading. And maybe in Mike's History of the Planted Hobby 1991-2009 Book, this will show up right next to the page on the Novak case----
I had forgotten several details of this deal and the events leading up to it (as one is wont to do after three years of recovery). I unintentionally reconstructed its anatomy while digging through the archives for the contract a week ago.
Gomberg had pushed the PAM "Franchise" on the AGA several times throughout its run. He apparently first tried to make some kind of power play for TAG during Neil's editorship, and when unsuccesful, left the organization to start PAM. Then he tried to get the AGA to carry PAM as its magazine (with four pages for AGA business in the middle). Finally, as his interest waned, he tried to get the AGA to buy him out and take over publishing PAM as the AGA's official magazine. By this point (end of 2001), we figured we could do just as good a job by starting on our own with a color TAG. Besides, if we took over publishing PAM, as David recalls above, we would inherit all Dave's debt, "deals", etc.
What we DID want to do, though, was pick up some new members, as our membership was not enough to support color printing. And we were pretty horrified at Dave's "deal" with his subscribers, many of whom had been forced into multi-year committments, which was to give them one *back issue* for every remaining issue on their subscription. We thought that an honorable thing for the AGA to do would be to step in and offer AGA memberships to all the PAM subscribers.
It went through, I beleive, both me and David as negotiators, possibly also Neil in there as well. Just like today, I think I got too frustrated to continue with all the "dealing". Originally we were just going to do the member conversion thing in swap for an equal number of back issues. At one point it was going to be "just the non-AGA members", but some of us thought it would be unfair to those who were already AGA (most, it turned out, were). We didn't know it, but it turned out to be about 1000-1500 copies right there (he had somewhere around 200 members with varying amounts of issues left).
As an afterthought, we thought of also buying some of the issues outright at $2 per copy, so we'd have a strong stock to sell out of the bookstore. But that mutated into "we should buy his entire stock"... and I beleive I was partly resposible for this, as there was worry that he'd try to undercut us in back issue sales. I think we'd also thought we could work a better deal for the entire stock than for just a thousand or two copies.
But somehow this ended up in the contract as "buy out his entire stock at $2 per copy." I'll give Neil credit, he tried to stop it at that point. But at the time we had this huge treasaury and we just did it anyway. A year later printing color TAG without ads, and with a money-losing convention in Houston, and only $1000 in revenue from PAMs, it started to dawn on us that this might have not been such a smart move.
Why bother regurgitating all this? The whole problem with this latest debacle was that I'd FORGOTTEN a lot of the history. When I was scanning in the issues for my own personal archive, I thought, "Hey, these articles are really good. This was a pretty good magazine. We should include those out-of-print articles in our disk & put everything in the index to remind folks that there's good info out there." If I'd read my own post above, I would have remembered to keep a safe distance from it...still unexploded mines left around.
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