Hi, Dustin wrote: > I had a 10 gal many years ago with just regulat gravel and underground > filter, and i had great plant growth. no co2 no fertz, just a heavy fish > load. I started out that way, too. My plants also grew really well. However, when I tried to pull up an overgrown Amazon sword (at least for that tank), one of the UGF plates came up half way through the gravels because of the roots wrapping around the plate. Boy, what a mess it created. I ended up breaking down the tank after all. Tomoko ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/