I had a 10 gal many years ago with just regulat gravel and underground filter, and i had great plant growth. no co2 no fertz, just a heavy fish load. At the time I had no idea what I was doing ;) I did notice when I took the tank down that the roots were all rapped up in the ug filter though. Dustin ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com> To: <aga-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: Re: > It could get messy trying to do a partial change of > substrate and remove the UG. You might wish after you > started that you left the UG buried or jsut did a full > break down. Then again, it sounds like something I might > do. > > IF there is a screen or guard of some kind on the powehead > intake, you can fit a sponge over it and voila, instant > meachanical filter and circulation. Marineland makes > sponges for this for their own powerhead but I've fit them > over lots of things. For Marineland, they're called RUG > (reverse UG) sponges. > > Scott H. > --- Traci HalesVass <tracihv@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > _______________________ > > > > > > > >Undergravel filters are great for fish only aquariums > > but there use in > > >planted aquaria is debatable. In addition epoxy coated > > gravel is probably > > >the least desirable substrate. If you are loathe to > > tear down your > > >aquarium > > >and start from scratch I would vacuum the mulm and > > detritus from underneath > > >the filter accessing from the up lift tubes. Then > > remove the up lift tubes > > >and cap off the holes. Your gravel may have enough mulm > > and detritus to > > >support plants but you may want to amend it with a > > nonclouding substrate > > >such > > >as Flourite. > > > > I don't want to tear down nor do I want to risk the > > fishies' health. I like > > the idea of adding the Flouite. I've thought about trying > > to do this one > > side at a time: remove most of the gravel with the tank > > partially filled, > > take out the ug and put in substrate. Then doing the same > > with the other > > half. You think this is feasible? > > > > > > > don't try to add laterite as you will have a cloudy mess. > > For > > >filtration you could use a hang on or canister filter > > depending on your > > >taste and budget. > > > > I really like my power heads as ugf's. Is there a way to > > use the power heads > > without the uplift tubes? > > > > >You can easily fit 4 flourescent tubes over the top of a > > >55 gallon. Add DIY yeast CO2 and you are on your way. > > >Eric > > > > > > > > >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > >multipart/alternative > > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > > text/html > > >--- > > > ------------------ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to > > majordomo@thekrib.com > > > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the > > message. Archives of > > > this list can be found at > > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months > > FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > ------------------ > > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to > > majordomo@thekrib.com > > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the > > message. Archives of > > this list can be found at > > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of > this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/