From: "Kate Breimayer" <kate@munat.com> > Does that only apply to national parks or are state parks included? I am > unsure on all this stuff, was going to get some driftwood one day this > week.... If the Pellia is located in this area I should look for it It might be best to contact your local Fish & Wildlife office. (Both Federal and State F&W.) They will send you a list of currently endangered/threatened species and areas that you should avoid. Collection of anything on any publicly-accessed federal land - be it park, forest, monument, whatever - is illegal. (Usually true for State-owned public land as well.) However most rangers/offices can put you in touch with local groups who may have permits/permissions for the things you're looking for, depending on sensitivity of the area or specie. I've found the Fish & Wildlife people to be the most knowledgeable about what's going on and who is doing what (from a regional viewpoint). If you are in Washington state your best bet in the Washington State Department of Ecology and the office of the Aquatic Plants Technical Assistance Program. (http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wq/plants/native/) or the Washington Native Plant Society - http://www.wnps.org/ Oregon Native Plant Society - http://www.npsoregon.org Much of their information will apply throughout the NW since this is all part of the same temperate rainforest. In Oregon your best bet are the large number of environmental organizations that conduct regular field trips, some of which focus exclusively on aquatic plants. These are all open to anyone interested. Strange, I'm not aware of any Washington state-based orgs that do similar fieldtrips.. I haven't had time to chase down anything specific since this thread started, but two things did occur to me. I may be thinking of another xxxwort instead of liverwort as submerged specimens available in the region. If I remember correctly, the Endangered Species website only lists less than half a dozen threatened/endangered liverworts, all of those being located in the SE U.S. But now that I think of it I don't remember seeing a list of liverworts in the NW. And, of course, I feel obligated to bring up the matter of problems arising from wastewater disposal. It is fairly easy to accidently introduce a specie into an area just by dumping out the water changes. A spore/seed, root, etc... there are real problems that can occur. I use my tank wastewater to water our terrestrials as much as possible. Whatever plant cuttings I can't give away/trade I mulch for our terrestrials. I strain the water if I have an excess I need to dump into the sewage system, then rinse the sieve in the water for our herb garden. I do all I can to make sure no part of anything growing in my tanks leaves the premises. Some folks I know just wrap their green waste in newspaper and put this in their trash (in paper bags, of course <g>). This seems a safe approach as well. d ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/