On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:36:41 -0400, Phil Edwards wrote > I've been told by people who have been to the tropical jungles that > there is almost no light in the understory/ground level. In a > jungle {aquatic or not :)} all of the overstory plants use Red- > Violet light. Taking into account the density of green reflecting > leaves in the canopy, very little green light makes it into the > understories of a jungle. This is also true of red light and the > spectra more to the left side of our visable spectrum. This is > caused by the longer wavelength and decrease in penetrating power of > those spectra. The farther right we go on the spectrum the shorter > the wavelength and higher the penetrating power of the light. My statement that light in a forest understory is strongly green was based on reported measurements of spectral intensity in forest understories. So despite the reasoning there is some data that has to be dealt with :). > A forest/jungle canopy is almost totally analagous with water. The > farther down one goes the more attenuated the spectrum is and the > more blue the light gets. Umm, light transmitted through a fresh water body -- aside from getting dim real fast -- should get more green with depth. That is because a) water adsorbs more light at the red end of the spectrum, b) organic compounds in the water adsorb more light at the blue end of the spectrum and c) phytoplankton in the water transmit or reflect light in the middle of the spectrum, but adsorb light at both ends of the spectrum. Obviously the whole effect will vary a lot from water body to water body depending on the relative roles of the water itself, organic compounds in the water and phytoplankton in the water. In sea water where organic constituents and phytoplankton are rare the light tends to get blue with depth. As I think Scott and others were getting to, the reddish pigments in plants probably have more than one role. The pigment has a role in plants growing under bright light that seems different from the role it plays in forest understory plants. That multiplicity may cause problems in your research. Roger Miller ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/