You give up on keeping the gap, havee flatter instead of parabolic reflctors, and lose a lot of the light. That's one reason T5s can have higher effective outputs in more applications. Point source lights take that advanctage even farther, althought the round "spot-light" dispersion doesn't suit many aquarium applications. Wherever you could stuff a lot of 4' T12s, you could probably get more light using T8s, or about as much light using less electricity -- assuming you use compaably matched ballasts. And T8s are pretty cheap even in the US. Scott H. --- Livay Aviel-R51374 <Aviel.Livay@motorola.com> wrote: > Steven, > > So the only question is how could you cram 8 T12s into a > 19.5 inch wide hood when the width of a reflector is 3" > and you want some additional gap in order to close the > hood. > > Aviel. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aga-member@thekrib.com > [mailto:owner-aga-member@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Steven > Pituch > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:33 PM > To: aga-member@thekrib.com > Subject: Re: [AGA Member] Re: fish/plant light -- or - > Have you got lots of options or what? > > Hi Aviel, > > You may have a better solution in Israel with the T5s. > My NO setup is low > tech. Is your tank 8 feet long? If I was on a budget > here in the USA I > would think of making two separate 4 foot long suspended > enclosures. I > would put 8 T12 bulbs in each enclosure. That would > bring it up to 3.2 W/G. > > The bulbs are actually 6500K, 84CRI, 20,000 hour, 2325 > lumens each, Philips > Alto 812447. Here in bright Corpus Christi, Texas in my > sun room at high > noon the lamp color is perfectly neutral (not blue). In > the second URL > reference in my previous email the first picture shows > one of the bulbs to > be an expensive ($8) 5000K Philips bulb. In this picture > the color of this > bulb is very brown compared to the 6500K bulbs. I have > 4000K bulbs that > look absolutely terrible in an aquarium (they are very > yellow). I would > hate to see what a 3000K bulb would look like. > > I think the bulbs I am using are conservatively rated. > After one year (4400 > hours) , there is no darkening of the ends of the bulbs. > I don't think they > degrade as much as some bulbs. There are others on the > list that can > comment on light falloff with age, but I think the rated > output is not at > startup, but after a few months of use, and quite stable. > > Good luck with the tank. > > Steve Pituch > > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to > majordomo@thekrib.com > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the > message. Archives of > this list can be found at > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > ------------------ > To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to > majordomo@thekrib.com > with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the > message. Archives of > this list can be found at > http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/ > ===== S. Hieber - - - - - - - - Takashi Amano and More at the AGA Annual Convention Nov 12, 13 & 14, 2004 Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia, USA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/