Re: [AGA Member] AB contest announcements

["Bailin Shaw" <bailin_shaw@hotmail.com>]

Hi Roger,

I think the mistake is on my end.  I'm not privy to the "disagreement" 
either, but there have been rumblings in the past.  I don't think and hope 
that it doesn't influence others who frequent his board to have the same 
feelings.  The people who I know on the AB forum who are AGA members and who 
I've met at the AGA were all very supportive of the planted tank community 
and I see their work as important to the propagation of this hobby.

I would like to see more of the original posters of the APD return and make 
an appearance.  I think that it's still one of the most visited planted 
lists, although many others are now available.  The newer people have a lot 
to learn from the experienced aquascapers and may not know about some of 
these other forums.  I read the list but don't often post.  I don't think I 
have the expertise that many of the others original posters have.  Their 
knowledge is invaluable and important to the growth of this hobby.

Since I have asked this of others, I'll come onto the APD and AB to do a 
little more to promote the hobby instead of stirring the pot.  I hope you 
didn't take things the wrong way.  Like I explained to Carlos, I didn't like 
the comment made by Robert.  The particular person that comment was directed 
at has worked tirelessly and deserves a LOT of appreciation for how the 
convention turned out last year and will turn out this year.

Anyways, see you on the boards.
Bailin
> > I'm not sure why there is such a dislike of the AGA by people who post 
> on
> > Aquabotanic...
>
> Bailin,
>
> I do hope this is just a misunderstanding.  I am a moderator at the
> Aquabotanic forums and one of the most active posters on AB.  AGA has been
> very supportive of my goals in the hobby.  I appreciate that and I like to
> think that I've been supportive of AGA.  I didn't know that people who post
> on AB have any animosity toward AGA.  I understand that Robert has had
> disagreements with some AGA folks in the past.  I am not privvy what 
> happened
> but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't generalize to the rest of us.
>
> > However, let's be honest, what's the true
> > reason that Robert has a forum that competes with the AGA's list and the
> > APD.
>
> Gee, I think Robert might have to answer that, but I don't think there's 
> any
> secret.  Robert uses the Aquabotanic forums as a way to raise the profile 
> of
> his business.  He pays for the facility.  I hope he gets a return that is
> worth his investment.
>
> > Have you not noticed that the original posters on the APD have all
> > but disappeared?  One of the old venerable lists is now visited by only 
> a
> > few of the original posters.
>
> Uh, yeah.  I don't think that has anything to do with AB.  It is inevitable
> that people will move on and for the most part they haven't moved on to
> Aquabotanic.  The crowd at APD has changed with time and if the topics they
> discuss cease to be interesting to a large number of people then APD will
> cease to be the factor it once was -- just like the venerable newsgroups 
> that
> preceded APD.  At the moment though, APD seems to be pretty healthy.
>
>
> Roger Miller
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