Roger said: > It appears to me that they need to be judged on a > basis that is substantially technical ("Is this a biotope?") and not > aesthetic, as is the case in other categories. True. I would like to have a definition of what a biotope is for the AGA contest. I agree that if it is aesthetic and has plants, it should go into one of the other planted categories. If it is aesthetic and has no plants then that _could_ be a category that could be defined as the "biotope" category. But in that case why don't we just have an "unplanted" category. The name would make more sense, and there would be no confusion over judging them with the aesthetic judges. > Answering the technical > question is not necessarily something that an aquascaping judge is qualified > to do. True but we have had some aesthetic judges that knew a lot about plants also, and did a good job as technical judges in the biotope category. > > If they are to be judged > on some other basis then they need an entirely different set of judging > guidelines. Setting up a different set of guidelines effectively creates a > separate contest for biotopes. True. It would be a separate sub-contest with less participation. But there are a lot of planted aquaria enthusiasts that are either not yet ready to go full tilt into aquascaping, or they like the plants themselves more than the aesthetic part of the hobby. It would give them an opportunity to participate in the contest. > I suppose that we could define our way around that little controversy by > insisting that the biotope entries must be planted. That would eliminate > tanks that represent most of the worlds aquatic biotopes. This I don't understand. I thought most biotopes (even the African rift lakes) have planty of aquatic plants. Its just people often don't want to use the plants. If its a technical (and not aesthetic) biotope and a really true plantless biotope then at least the other items like rocks and wood should attempt to mimic the original biotope being modeled. If its aesthetic then the realism doesn't matter. I agree that the AGA contest right now is an "aquascaping" contest and plants are optional. But since the AGA is a "planted aquaria" club, maybe a technical biotope definition would bring in some participation from the plant lovers that aren't into hardcore aquascaping. And yes there would need to be some guidlines for a technical biotope category. Steve Pituch > > ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe aga-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/aga-member/