Re: PAM "adoption"

[Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>]

David, do you also think we should also pass on any deals for trading back
issues of PAM for AGA memberships? (Yes, maybe, no, emphatic no under no
circumstances?)  I just want to get an idea of where the entire board
stands on this.  Neil too!  So far Karen sounds lukewarm, like maybe if it
was a better deal?  I'm undecided: the optimistic part says we could make
it work.  The pessimistic side says avoid.  So I really am looking for
input from everyone else.  Thanks.

  - Erik

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David VillaSunscape wrote:

> I thought we had agreed Saturdaynight thatwe would not pick up PAM. I agree
> that we should distance ourselves from PAM as muchas posssible.
> As I promised Sunday after getting the offers from Amano, I will put
> together a proposal for TAg and Amano. I will run this by the SC and Merrill
> and Mike Hellweg -- when we have agreed to what we want I will send it on to
> Amano.
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:26 PM
> Subject: PAM "adoption"
> 
> 
> > OK.. so based on some e-mail I have received from Dave today (and talking
> > with Kathy at dinner), I think that perhaps we should distance the AGA as
> > much as possible from PAM now.  Dave is about to do something (sending an
> > average of 6 copies of back issues as fulfillment to his remaining 300
> > subscribers) that will not only piss off his entire membership, but could
> > possibly bring on a lawsuit against him, and he seems unconcerned about
> > it.
> >
> > He is awaiting an "answer" from the AGA on whether it wants to adopt PAM.
> > Discussion is officially open on this issue now.  If someone would like to
> > make a motion, by all means, go for it.
> >
> > To recap the issue from my notes from Saturday:
> >
> >   * Dave has offered to give PAM to Karen, or the AGA.
> >
> >   * PAM assets include 330 subscribers, its 15 advertisers, a backlog of
> >     articles, and a stockpile of back issues
> >
> >   * PAM liabilities include 1900 promised copies to the 330 subscribers,
> >     and loans to Karen, Neil, and Dave himself.
> >
> >   * There are four jobs in Dave's world:
> > "Cowboy" - get articles and photographs
> > "Copy/Tech Editing" - "you can pay someone to do this"
> > "Design" - Layout and such
> > "Production" - Getting to the printers, mailing, etc
> >
> >   * Dave would like to continue as "cowboy" but not as anything else.
> >
> >   * Dave wants to continue to pay authors.  He currently pays them double
> >     what the magazines pay, but does not pay anyone else for producing
> PAM.
> >     (Actually, I think he pays Karen, Neil and himself for tech ed and
> >     production, but as loans.)
> >
> >   * Costs: Printing $3500/issue for 1500 copies.  $200 gets you an
> >      additional 1000 copies.
> >    Authors paid $3500/issue
> >    Copy + tech edit $400
> >    Production $20x80
> >    Mailing 40 cents/issue  (80 cents foreign)
> >    Office Supplies $200
> >    Ads offset approx $4000 of this?
> >
> >   * Any of the above may be total BS, subject to change at any moment.
> >
> > --
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >
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