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Re: Fw: AGA 2004
The other thing he'll have to factor in is that if he's hoping for drive-ins
from the NEC territory, he'd better check NEC dates and schedule around
them. My guess is that except for the die-hard "plant people" NEC folks
would close ranks and support the local event rather than an AGA convention
still within driving distance but farther away. This is especially relevant
because several of the AGA conventions have been in direct competition with
the BAS annual auction. David and I have opted for AGA anyway, but we're
BOD members.
I don't know how much (if at all) Ghazanfar is to the organized GENERAL
aquarium hobby.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> Good point. Ghanzafar has probably done a calc like that
> based on 2003 attendees. WE sent him city/state for
> registrants. Maybe we should ask for his numbers. ;-)
>
> On a related point, of the 108 paid registrants at AGA2K3,
> 15% bought memberships with their registration. Others
> might have bought memberships separately. But the
> prepoderance of attendees were already members. Some number
> of these sign-ups joined only to go to the convention. So
> the number that signed up only to go the convention is a
> small percentage. It would seem then that the market for
> the the 2003 convention was predominantly members of AGA.
>
> But, I expect Ghanzafar to be targeting a different
> audience, one which comprises AGA *plus* all the b'ginners,
> or something like that. Depending on his strategy, the
> b'ginners might be a big share. I wonder if b'ginners are
> as likely to fly to a convention?
>
>
> sh
> --- David Lass <davidlass@villasunscape.com> wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity (actually it would be good to know)
> > can we query the
> > database to find out how many AGA members there are in,
> > say, DC, MD, PA, NJ
> > etc.? That might give us a handle on what we could expect
> > for a DC/Baltimore
> > convention, with Amano.
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: "AGA Steering Committee" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: AGA 2004
> >
> >
> > > That's what worries me. One of the reasons Texas
> > worked so well was that
> > > they didn't rely on having 110 people. They made it
> > break even
> > > (theoretically, at least) with a lot fewer.
> > >
> > > Ghazanfar is very bright, but there are some things
> > that cannot be
> > > predicted. We don't really know how much of a draw the
> > Amano name
> > > actually is. We know it's good, but how good? Enough
> > to guarantee 200
> > > people? The number of people will also be affected by
> > the cost of the
> > > hotel and plane fare.
> > >
> > > OK, now I write to James, and try to get all these
> > issues off the plate so
> > > I can do baby prep things today...
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Randall wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: AGA 2004
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Karen,
> > > > > I hope you have a speedy recovery following your
> > surgery.
> > > > > The tricky part with the bid proess is that a lot
> > depends
> > > > > on how large an audience we will attract. The
> > venue, events
> > > > > nad registration costs all depends on how many
> > people
> > > > > we hope will attend. That's directly tied in with
> > > > > the location (which we have) and the speaker line
> > up.
> > > > > If Mr. Amano accepts our invitation, we can plan
> > for a
> > > > > larger number of attendees. However, I agree, if we
> > > > > invite Mr. Amano - it should be regardless of
> > venue.
> > > > > I hope he accepts the invite! Please let me know if
> > there's
> > > > > anything we can do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karenran@verizon.net
> > [mailto:karenran@verizon.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > > > > To: Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > Subject: Re: AGA 2004
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ghazanfar,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm going to try this one more time.(I've typed 2
> > other
> > > > > > resonses to you which the computer has eaten) I
> > am typing on
> > > > > > a laptop in bed following surgery, which is why I
> > didn't
> > > > > > respond before. It is also the reason for the
> > different
> > > > > > e-mail address. The rdrcpa address is a
> > sub-account of this
> > > > > > one, but the one I use most of the time. I can't
> > get to that
> > > > > > account from this machine though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd be happy to contact Mr. Amano, but I want to
> > talk to the
> > > > > > BOD first. I don't think it would be polite to
> > invite him
> > > > > > only if the convention is held in a specific
> > venue, so I want
> > > > > > to be sure that if we invite him, the invitation
> > stands no
> > > > > > matter where it ends up. (though, personally, I'm
> > hoping for DC!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glad to hear your plants are doing well, most of
> > mine are
> > > > > > too, though as with your, some were in tough
> > shape to begin with!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Karen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "Ghazanfar Khan Ghori" <ghori@ghori.net>
> > > > > > > Date: 2003/11/28 Fri PM 11:17:03 CST
> > > > > > > To: <karenran@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > Subject: AGA 2004
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karen, I emailed you last week regarding AAG
> > 2004 and the
> > > > > > > possibility of having Mr. Amano as a key
> > speaker. I didn't
> > > > > > > hear back from you, but the email address that
> > I sent it to (got
> > > > > > > it off the AGA website) was different from this
> > one.
> > > > > > I'm assuming
> > > > > > > you didn't get the email?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > Ghazanfar Khan Ghori
> > > > > > > www.aquaticscape.com
> > > > > > > www.desicookbook.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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