Re: AGA Forums (fwd) 2nd Reply

["David Lass" <davidlass@villasunscape.com>]

The red flag starts really waving in the wind when he asks for "tentative
approval" and then the membership list. I dion't know this guy from a
doorknob, but thisa gives me very bad vibes. Besides, there are plant forums
out there, and the main thing that we need to concentrate our efforts on
here as the "leadership" of AGA is assuring our solvency and increasing the
number of members. My two cents worth.
David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: AGA Forums (fwd) 2nd Reply


> I didn't feel that he understood my question about
> accountability/responsibility -- again, read my question at the bottom
> first, THEN his reply.
>
> In fact, to me THIS reply raised more red flags than the first one.  See
> what you think...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:15:10 -0500
> From: JamesHoftiezer@charter.net
> To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Cc: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net>
> Subject: Re: AGA Forums
>
> I can understand that.  If this is successful, it will only add to those
> existing duties with new memberships and attention.
>
> My concerns are similar in nature.  That is why I have offered to pay for
> the first year of hosting, to set it up myself and only go live once I
have
> the support of the AGA.  I think my reputation and history will speak for
> itself in this manner.  I'll research, prototype and build a turnkey
> product.
>
> If you believe the AGA will actively support the forum, then I will go
> onto the next stage and begin constructing the forum and the team.  If
there
> is hesitation, please let me know so that we can address any concerns up
> front.  If possible a tentative approval would be appreciated so that I
know
> the level of interest and support.  It will add credability to any
> recruitment and avoid any misundertandings.
>
> Also, is it possible to get a membership & email list, so that I can
> concentrate on recruiting existing AGA members?  Short of asking everyone,
I
> am not away of any directory.
>
> The first thing would be tentative approval from the board.  Then I'll
> purchase the webspace and create the portal.  I'll set up the basic topics
> and ask the AGA to review the layout and content.  At the same time I will
> recruit moderators and authors from the AGA.  With the team established,
> we'll review the portal page, the forum layout and topic list, assign the
> moderators and get final AGA approval.  Only then would it go live.  If
for
> any reason the AGA does not approve the final concept or I am unable to
> recruit a full team, we can drop the project in the prototype stage.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> To: <JamesHoftiezer@charter.net>
> Cc: "Hoftiezer, James" <JHoftiezer@advanceamerica.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: AGA Forums
>
>
> > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 JamesHoftiezer@charter.net wrote:
> >
> > > E) My intention is that the forum/board become the property of the
AGA.
> In
> > > no way do I want to assert ownership of the board or allow it to be
seen
> as
> > > my property.  I feel that would be counterprodctive to the stated
> purpose.
> > > If for some reason I was unable to continue a moderator or AGA member
> within
> > > the forums would have to be promoted by the AGA board.
> > > I am volunteering my time to establish and run the forum indefinately
at
> the
> > > discretion of the AGA board.  I am very flexible in that regard.  I
feel
> > > that this should be done, but do not feel that it has to be me
> personally.
> > > In fact there may be people already in the AGA who would be better
> equipped
> > > to do this or whom the AGA may prefer to see as senior admin, even if
> only
> > > for appearance sake.  (i.e. - Ghazanfar Ghori may be better at setting
> up
> > > the tech of a forum and you as president may be officially listed as
> senior
> > > admin.  The moderators and members would do the day to day work.  Then
I
> > > could just be a member :) )
> >
> > Understand that our concern is not so much whether it's the AGA or you
who
> > "controls" it.  As a member, you are as much a part of the AGA as anyone
> > else.  Pretty much every proposal that has been made to the AGA by a
> > member has been placed in charge of that member to administrate.
> >
> > Rather, it's the opposite problem!  What seems to be the perennial issue
> > with volunteers is getting them to stick with their promises. We want a
> > person/team to have specific *commitment* to this service, and it
*can't*
> > really be anyone currently on the board (we've all got way too many jobs
> > already!).  So one of the requirements, just like organizing the
> > convention, is that you list people who would be on board with the
> > concept.
> >
> >   - Erik
> >
> > -- 
> > Erik Olson
> > erik at thekrib dot com
> >
>
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