Re: [AGA SC] T-shirts

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Then we'd have a better idea on options and it only costs a
day or two. We're not in a hurry are we. Which reminds me:

Cherrrrrrrrryl, 
Should I expect brochures in hand to take up to NEC. I just
want to know if I need to save room in the car (i.e., clean
the darn thing out for a change).


sh
--- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> When the shirts were sold, weren't they only sold at
> conventions?  I never 
> remember reading about them in TAG.  I have a small set
> of the remaining 
> pins, and was going to offer them on the website (well,
> right after I add 
> Diana's new offer -- boy she's being bitchy and
> unreasonable about that, 
> as if suddenly this offer's going to just fly those back
> issues out of her 
> trailer...but I digress).  Anyway, I think it would be
> cool to do a small 
> T-shirt run.  Cafepress is pretty humdrum and tends to
> charge a lot.  We 
> could probably get a small run for less.  I almost would
> volunteer for 
> distribution, as they make great padding for videos and
> CD's... but no, 
> the main thing would be having another AGA volunteer to
> do this.  Hey, why 
> not ask the membership?  Maybe someone new WOULD like to
> handle this?
> 
>   - Erik
> 
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, S. Hieber wrote:
> 
> > The biggest piece of change goes to the intermediary,
> Cafe
> > Press. E.g, roughly estimatingm on a T-shirt: $2 to
> bulk
> > wholesaler, $13 markup to CafesPress, $2-$5 markup to
> AGA
> > selling at $18 to $20. That's a lot of money for a
> T-shirt
> > unless these are very nice T-shirts. I mean the cotton
> -- I
> > know the logo is nice ;-)
> > 
> > There are others we could enter into business with, no?
> How
> > about someone that does aquatic hobby T-shirts. We add
> our
> > design to their inventory; the inventory/selection is
> > bigger; we sell it off the AGA site; the T-shirt person
> > handles "manufacture" and fullfillment; and we take a
> piece
> > for the AGA website point of sale.
> > 
> > 
> > Otoh, this is easy with little up front cost in time
> and
> > none in money. Little return--little risk. ( and little
> > inventory shrinkage due to comps ;-) )
> > 
> > When we had shirt, how did they move?  Sold fast;
> > give-aways, etc???
> > 
> > Just, pardon the expression, spitballing.
> > 
> > sh
> > 
> > --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> > > I took this to the SC list, because I didn't think it
> was
> > > something to be
> > > decided in public.  But actually, I don't think it's
> a
> > > bad idea at all.  The
> > > reason we haven't done T-shirts or pins again is not
> > > because people didn't
> > > like/want them, but because no one wanted to handle
> the
> > > production, sales,
> > > inventory and shipping.  The one time we did
> t-shirts, I
> > > did all the
> > > production work, and still have the last few
> remaining
> > > "collectors item"<g>
> > > shirts.  Dorothy did the pins, and likewise, I think
> if
> > > there are any left,
> > > she has them.  When I looked at the prices this place
> was
> > > charging, they
> > > were just about the same as what we needed to charge
> whn
> > > we did them, simply
> > > because we had a relatively small order, and needed
> to be
> > > sure to get our
> > > money back out of them.
> > > 
> > > I don't see any harm in doing this, and it might
> bring in
> > > a little money.
> > > Between Cheryl and me, we have the "design team" in
> place
> > > already.  If we
> > > did a new design annually, people could keep buying
> > > updates. Even if we
> > > didn't sell THAT many, if there is no up-front cost,
> it
> > > seems to me that
> > > ANYTHING that adds to the bottom line might be a good
> > > idea.  In this case,
> > > it's also something that people enjoy, and promote a
> > > sense of community.
> > > T-shirts are a big part of the "aquarium hobby
> culture"
> > > here in the U.S.
> > > 
> > > Any thoughts from the rest of you?
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > S. Hieber
> > 
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