While I've been champing at the bit for more space for a while, twice the space would be a HUGE leap... It might take us a while to ramp up to that. (though, if the cost is really similar, it's worth a try!!!!) But the postage may still be a serious issue. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] TAG 2005 > I think that what Cheryl said was...the biggest cost for Eagle Press was > number of plates, so printing 40 full-sized pages would be similar in cost > than printing 40 small-sized pages. So it won't be DOUBLE the cost to > have double the space. But it'd still be more, especially for mailing. > I wouldn't want to see something much thinner than 40 pages -- which is > why I made that remark about Cichlid News. > > - Erik > > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Karen Randall wrote: > > > > > > >> As I mentioned more or less in passing at Ghazanfar's house, James Elliot > >> of Eagle Press warned me that the price of printing TAG was going to go up > >> in the coming year. It's not that bad, really; only about $200 more per > > issue. > >> > >> Here's an official quote per 1000 copies: > >> > >> $2500.00 insides > >> $400.00 cover > > > > That's not too bad. > > > >> He also suggested that we think about converting TAG to a "regular" > >> magazine size. He says we can sell more advertising space more > > efficiently, > >> add pages more conveniently, and that he doesn't think postage would be > >> that much more. I'm not sure about that last one, but I can look in to it > >> if we are truly interested. > >> > >> I am interested in exploring the cost, unless someone comes up with a > >> downside. My reasons: > > > > I think it's worth looking into, but, I do have some reservations. > > > >> 1. I have lately felt constrained in layout. Many of these tank shots > > would > >> be better if they could be bigger. > > > > I agree, the layout could be MUCH nicer with full sized pages. We also end > > up NOT using a lot of the photos because of space consideration. BUT, > > unless I am wrong, we would end up with half the pages or double the cost. > > So we'd still be trying to fit the same amount of material into the same > > amount of space, just laid out differently. Wouldn't it be kinda floppy > > and, well, THIN at double the size and half the pages? Also, what do you > > do about advertisers? If you keep giving them a whole page, you've given > > them twice the amount of territory. But if you give them the same amount of > > territory they have currently, they are sharing the page with other stuff. > > Will they be OK with that? Will they pay more for a larger full-sized ad? > > > >> 2. Karen ALWAYS gives me too much stuff. :-) Gosh, I haven't devoted an > >> entire page to the AGA logo in just AGES! > > > > Hey, don't temp me gal... we've got such a NICE logo now!<g> > > > >> 3. Tomoko says she MIGHT have a deal with Amano's Aquajournal to publish > > in > >> English. I think that we could lose a customer base if we're not careful. > > > > I certainly don't want to sound complacent, and I, personally, will be very > > glad to have Aqua Journal in English (though we will lose one good article > > per issue, as it would be redundant) But most of the Aqua Journal is > > written by Amano. Most of it is strictly pertaining to aquascaping, and > > when you really look at it, While it is heavy on beautiful photographs, it's > > light on information. So, while I think many people including me will be > > happy to get it, I don't know that it will be viewed as a replacement for > > TAG. > > > > Karen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AGA-sc mailing list > > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > > > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > AGA-sc mailing list > AGA-sc@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc > _______________________________________________ AGA-sc mailing list AGA-sc@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-sc