Re: [AGA-sc] Re: [AGA-mcm] Web Site

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

I think we just let it sit.  I wasn't aware of the fact that you DIDN'T have
the other years archived on the site... since I have access to most of the
same photos on my own computer, I honestly hadn't looked.  That's why I
asked the question when it came up on APC. (though I solved that particular
problem by uploading the photo they were all looking for onto that site,
since it was mine anyway)

I don't have a strong preference whether we keep them all on the site.  Some
people may find it fun to look back through them, but I certainly understand
that graphics take up a lot of space. (I'm trying, at the moment, to find a
notebook computer tht is reasonably priced and will run with a pen tablet,
and be able to hold lots of digital photos... not an easy task!<g>)  Those
needs must be balanced, and Erik gets to call the shots there as far as I'm
concerned.

If Jay loves his software so much, and wants the "gallery" to become a more
permanent archive, maybe we should suggest (at some point, NOT now) that he
produces CD's of the annual gallery that people can purchase, just as they
do the convention and contest DVD's.

As far as how many "hits" his gallery is getting, we all know those numbers
can be deceiving.  And the BIGGEST difference is taht he has made sure that
EVERYONE on EVERY list knows it's there.  It is no easier to find than the
photos for other years have been.  It's just a matter of going to look for
them.  I think we've been reluctant to "spam" the lists with AGA
announcements of that sort for fear of being obnoxious.  Unfortunately, this
is the NJAS style, and Jay seems to have picked it up.

In any case, it's probably best to let things simmer down for a while at
this point.  We all have more important, and hopefully more enjoyable things
to be doing right now!

Erik, don't let it bug you... I'm sorry I brought it up.  I had no idea it
would become so contentious.  But this is a good example of why I wonder
about the wisdom of keeping Jay on the Advisory Committee list.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Re: [AGA-mcm] Web Site


> If he's saying "in the future", it's nothing to do with the software
> running on the site (that Jay seems so fond of glomming onto in every
> discussion), but his own internal stuff that he uploads.
>
> Incidentally, my software (kathyanderik.com-code) also produced photos of
> 640 pixels wide last year, so I'm not sure why it seems so different.
>
> But if there's a problem, you guys are going to have to tell him that.
> There's no way I can do this now. I'm plumb out of criticising this year.
> This is 3 for 3 in the last few weeks; I just can't do any more.
>
>    - Erik
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Karen Randall wrote:
>
> > I'd rather see him put the time into making the site that he's already
got
> > going more user-friendly (IE large enough to enjoy) before adding older
> > pictures at a too-small size.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Re: [AGA-mcm] Web Site
> >
> >
> >> He told me they are at 600 and he can do 800 but "that's in
> >> the future"
> >>
> >> sh
> >> --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jay can definitely upload bigger pictures.  I think it's
> >>> his choice of
> >>> making them small.
> >>>
> >>> I've never kept the old pictures around for longer than a
> >>> year.  Didn't
> >>> really think it was that important as they weren't a
> >>> critical part of the
> >>> AGA site, just sort of a "fun" temporal thing...and not
> >>> really well sorted
> >>> (of course I think they are worse-sorted this year...
> >>> i.e., left as "by
> >>> person" rather than mixed together for each category...
> >>> that was actually
> >>> the only difficult work I did last year, merging in all
> >>> the timelines
> >>> for 4 different photographers and trying to pick the
> >>> best).
> >>>
> >>>    - Erik
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, S. Hieber wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I need to here from Erik. If he still has the pages and
> >>>> they just aren't linked -- and all he has to do is turn
> >>>> them back on, then that's a good reason to do it that
> >>> way,
> >>>> to jsut turn them back on.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, I want to ask Jay if there isn't a way to make
> >>> the
> >>>> pics in the gallery bigger.
> >>>>
> >>>> sh
> >>>> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Oh, I wasn't suggesting changing what Jay did with the
> >>>>> 2004 pix.  I don't
> >>>>> think that would be fair to him.  But I hate that you
> >>>>> can't see them at a
> >>>>> large enough size to, well, SEE them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just don't want him to get his hands on the old
> >>> stuff
> >>>>> that worked better,
> >>>>> and make it worse.  (and I THINK there were pix there
> >>>>> from as long ago as
> >>>>> the first Amano year... maybe further back)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is, finding a tactful way of saying, "Oh,
> >>>>> don't bother putting
> >>>>> all that work into making them worse."<g>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am fairly sure that the reason there is no link to
> >>> them
> >>>>> at the moment has
> >>>>> nothing to do with the fact that Jay hasn't set them
> >>> up
> >>>>> in his "gallery"
> >>>>> style.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>
> >>>>> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board"
> >>>>> <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:02 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] Re: [AGA-mcm] Web Site
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, we could take another poll  ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> we could put the old convention pics back up the way
> >>>>> they
> >>>>>> were and then show counter with more hits on the old
> >>>>> pics
> >>>>>> than the 2004 pics. ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> we can just leave it for a while and eventually
> >>> change
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>> (more work for Erik)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> just leave 2004 as it is and put the old pics back
> >>> (my
> >>>>>> pref).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think the gallery is awful, even though it's
> >>>>> not my
> >>>>>> style -- it's so, so *forumish*.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We had more than just AGA2K3 before, didn't we? I
> >>> don't
> >>>>>> know if I'd put the old pics up as part of this
> >>>>> gallery. I
> >>>>>> like the old way better too, so I would not want to
> >>>>> change
> >>>>>> the other photos, but I doubt it's worth the pains
> >>> and
> >>>>> hard
> >>>>>> feelings to change the 2004 gallery.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So that's my shadow vote. But I leave it to Erik's
> >>>>>> aesthetic sensibilities -- besides, it'd be work for
> >>>>> him,
> >>>>>> votin's easy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> sh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sorry to jump lists again, but... I think the old
> >>>>> version
> >>>>>>> was WAY better
> >>>>>>> than the new one.  How do we deal with THAT?!?!<g>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Karen
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "jay luto" <jayluto@hotmail.com>
> >>>>>>> To: <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:49 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [AGA-mcm] Web Site
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Erik,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You can link me to "old" pictures and I will be
> >>>>> more
> >>>>>>> than happy to upload
> >>>>>>>> them to AGA Gallery as - AGA 2003 - event.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Jay Luto
> >>>>>>>> www.greenstouch.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: AGA Advisory Committee
> >>>>> <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >>>>>>>>> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com>
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [AGA-mcm] Web Site
> >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:23:32 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Erik,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Roger Miller just mentioned over on APC that there
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> no longer a link on
> >>>>>>>>> the web site to the earlier convention photos.  Is
> >>>>>>> this on purpose?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Karen
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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