Re: [AGA-sc] [Fwd: RE: The Aquatic Gardener ad submission deadline]

["Karen Randall" <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>]

When I talked to Ray at CAOAC, it sounded like he'd already decided not to 
come.  It wasn't an "official" conversation, but that was the impression I 
got.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board" <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] [Fwd: RE: The Aquatic Gardener ad submission deadline]


> On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Larry Lampert wrote:
>
>> OK, if we do this then what do we charge Seachem who
>> is sending a speaker? $649 for what will amount to
>> just the hospitality naming rights? They are already a
>> full page TAG advertiser. I am not sure this works but
>> I will go with it if you guys think we should.
>
> We'll give Seachem a table for free, right?  Seachem has been very happy
> to donate money -- they sponsored 80% of the contest last year for
> instance.
>
>> Also make it we need to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR to Gary
>> that he gets two registrations free but NO FT OR
>> BANQUET. I have had this problem with him before.
>
> Good to know this.
>
>
>> I don't think we can afford Ray. We can't shell out
>> the cash just to hopefully recoup it in auction
>> proceeds. Rays stuff is mainly for the fish folks and
>> since most people will be flying they won't be bidding
>> on the big stuff.
>
> I was really thinking this myself.  Now I just have to find a way to
> explain that if/when he asks.
>
>> To be honest at this point, I really am not concerned
>> about the vendor room. It is a "nice to have" but not
>> a prerequisite for a good convention experience. If
>> the vendor room does not pay for itself then it is IMO
>> just another thing for us to worry about.
>
> Good insight.  However, we still need to contact folks about auction
> donations.
>
>> Seachem - I will call Greg next week to confirm him or
>> his research director and get their bios.
>
> Thanks!
>
>> A question; Should these discussions be on MCM or
>> should they be Board only (SC)?
>
> I don't see much point about putting them on MCM, unfortunately.
> Probably would just annoy Skidmore that we're planning behind SFBAAPS'
> back, and would make Phil feel guilty about bailing.  I can't think of
> anyone else on that list who would be able to contribute.  But I'd like to
> eventually move it back to conheads, but I frankly don't feel comfortable
> talking openly about stuff like Ray there.
>
>   - Erik
>
>>
>>
>> Larry
>> --- Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, that sounds great!  Let's figure out the
>>> specifics, get our story
>>> straight, and then we can reply to folks like Gary
>>> and Ray, and it doesn't
>>> matter how we divvy the jobs up.
>>>
>>> I'll just throw some numbers out:
>>>
>>> * Vendor table $250, includes 2 convention regs (but
>>> not banquet or FT)
>>>
>>> * Free vendor table for full-page TAG advertisers
>>> (incl the regs, but
>>>    again, no FT)
>>>
>>> * Contest category sponsors $50 per category, $75
>>> for best of show
>>>    Will be announced at convention, and promoted on
>>> website just like this
>>>    year
>>>
>>> What do you think sirs?
>>>
>>>    - Erik
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Karen Randall wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd kind of rather offer them a FREE table at the
>>> convention for a year of
>>>> advertising.  Our vendor area will look more
>>> attractive to OTHER vendors if
>>>> it is seen as a busyling place where they are
>>> likely to get their products
>>>> noticed.  Our TAG advertisers are already our
>>> biggest suporters.
>>>>
>>>> Karen
>>>>
>>>> Karen
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
>>>> To: "Aquatic Gardeners Association Board"
>>> <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] [Fwd: RE: The Aquatic
>>> Gardener ad submission deadline]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Cheryl Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't Erica somebody volunteer for this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, yes, seem to recall that.  I put her in
>>> contact with you for the list,
>>>>> perhaps? :)  Now I'll have to go back and check
>>> my old e-mail.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I have been feeling the need to
>>> formally contact vendors again
>>>>>> regarding TAG advertising. Do we coordinate or
>>> hit them twice? While it
>>>>>> would be cheaper to coordinate, I think we
>>> should hit them twice from
>>>>>> different "departments." Otherwise we give them
>>> the option of thinking
>>>>>> it's an either/or situation when actually they
>>> can support both TAG and
>>>>>> the convention/contest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno about that... I find it's probably easier
>>> to explain both
>>>>> situations at the same time.  I mean, we had the
>>> same issue with the
>>>>> contest/convention.  Didn't want to hit them
>>> twice there either because
>>>>> some places had limited PR budget and felt we
>>> were double-dipping.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would think a prospective contact would be
>>> asking for any of the
>>>>> following:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. TAG ad revenue (the most helpful to us, also
>>> most costly)
>>>>>   2. Monetary sponsorship (contest or convention)
>>>>>  What are the categories?  How much?  How much
>>> for a comp reg?
>>>>>   3. Vendor tables at convention
>>>>>  How much?  Includes comp reg?
>>>>>   4. Auction donations?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey! How about we work them a deal that if they
>>> buy a table at the
>>>>>> convention they get a 10% discount on a yearly
>>> TAG ad?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems OK by me if we don't end up losing money...
>>>  remember though that
>>>>> theoretically for that $120 table, half the money
>>> goes to SFBAAPS (ho ho
>>>>> ho), so it's not really a wash for giving them
>>> 10% off.
>>>>>
>>>>>   - Erik
>>>>>
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