Re: [AGA-sc] seller rules

["S. Hieber" <shieber@yahoo.com>]

Imo, we should go with what Erik has been saying.

A fee to move items sounds smart. We might be lucky to have numbered items in 
the live auction -- whose going to number them and when and whose's going to 
keep track of which bags are where?. Moving items up might mean walking a bag 
up to Larry (or whoever is auctioneer) or auction supervisor and saying, I want 
to bid on this now, here's $2. Which ain't bad. 

Someone should supervise the bagging of goods, numbering of silent auciton 
items, the rotatin of auctioneers, operation of the bidding, order of items, 
etc. I'll take over that but only if no one else steps up. I'll be watching the 
money anyhow, or tyring to. I'm not assuming there will be any staff beyond 
mysef auctioneer (or two) and a cashier.  We can settle whether anyone else has 
stepped up as soon as we want.

sh
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Karen Randall <krandall@rdrcpa.biz>
To: Aquatic Gardeners Association Board <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:14:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AGA-sc] seller rules


I have no strong feelings, but haven't we had problems with so much stuff 
that the stuff at the end of the day was going for peanuts?  If so, I kind 
of agree that floods of stuff from local folks who don't care enough to 
register won't help bring in much money, and may actually devalue nicer 
stuff late in the day.

Also, I know that it hasn't been pursued, but I do like being able to 
advance an item for a fee.  Most auctions charge a buck or two to do it.  $5 
seems like a lot to me.

On to other auction-related conversation...

Finally, because "no one" has been in charge of the auction, and no official 
rules have been made up, I don't think there have been any parameters on 
auction items.  I don't know how it was handled in Dallas or DC, but the 
first few years, they were:

*Plants only (though I would favor allowing plant-freindly fish and inverts 
too, just for variety)

*2 bags per species or variety (I think this is VERY important so we don't 
get bogged down with 500 bags of duck weed)

Other thoughts to consider:

*Some big auctions also limit the number of lots per seller

*Some auctions give sellers one or two "red dots".  "Red dot" items get 
auctioned first.  That way everyone gets an equal chance of getting their 
choicer items early in the auction while everyone is still awake.

(There's always the FAAS 10 table system, but I've never really liked 
that.<g>)

*We should also have a designated time/place for turning in auction lots 
listed in the program... I remember at least one convention where I was 
asked over and over what people should do with their auction stuff and when.

I think we mailed the rules and a vendor sheet to all registrants prior to 
the first couple of conventions to make sure everyone knew the rules, and 
could fill out their sheets and properly lable their bags ahead of time.  If 
we can get someone to take that on, it would make things a lot less 
confusing at the convention.

Karen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
To: <aga-sc@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:54 AM
Subject: [AGA-sc] seller rules


> OK folks.  Let us decide on this NOW.
>
> Scott and Larry note last two conventions have allowed any bidders to get
> in for free, and sellers are charged $5 to sell.  The logic is that it
> will maximize the amount of stuff in the auction.
>
> I counter-propose (actually unaware of the real situation in 2003 and
> 2004) that sellers be required to register for the convention, but that
> bidders pay no fee.  My logic there is that we don't want locals flooding
> the auction with crap.  Might be wrong logic, but there it is.
>
> We need a decision on this now.  I have been saying one thing in the
> literature that's now all over the forums, but we are now injecting
> something else into the discussions.  As far as I know, there is no
> hardfast rule that says you have to do everything the way previous years
> were run, so I don't think we should do what we did last time because we
> did it last time.
>
> Please reply with your preferred option, and I'll collate the responses
> and say something official to conheads.  But since Gomberg is now in the
> mix, it will get ugly if we keep contradicting ourselves.
>
>   - Erik
>
> -- 
> Erik Olson
> erik at thekrib dot com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:46:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com>
> Reply-To: Convention Planning <aga-conheads@thekrib.com>
> To: Convention Planning <aga-conheads@thekrib.com>
> Cc: aga-sc@thekrib.com
> Subject: Re: [AGA-conheads] [Fwd: Reply to post '2006 AGA Convention in 
> San
>     Francisco Nov 10 - 12']
>
> Scott is repeating last year's arrangement.  We are not yet in agreement
> about this year's; whether it's $5 or registered attendees only.  I will
> send that issue to the board and get it resolved now, as continuing to
> post stuff we haven't agreed on is confusing.
>
>    - Erik
>
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Dave Gomberg wrote:
>
>> At 06:30 AM 9/25/2006, you wrote:
>>> don't charge anyone spending -- don't
>>>> dissuade, we get 30%. We figured that anyone selling
>>>> would be willing to pay $5 more to get in.
>>
>> So a seller gives the convention 30% plus $5 (the $5 per year, not
>> per item), right?
>>
>> Must a seller be registered?
>>
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