Ok. Sorry about the straying everyone, and thanks for the link Helen. I've just gotten back into africans (not that i've left my apistos behind!) and got a little over-excited. But on an apisto thread (and an old one, from what i remember) I have found what appear to be very suitable dithers for my caucatoides - Iratherina werneri. I haven't had a spawn from my apistos yet but so far so good - the thread-fins just flit around looking beautiful and bothering no-one. So fingers crossed. Also, can anyone give me any information on A. elizabethae? As in how hard to keep, where to get them, what should i expect to pay? I can't afford any new intros right now, but i'm making a wish list. thanks and apologies dominic -----Original Message----- From: Frauley/Elson <fraulels@minet.ca> To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Shell Dwellers? >I have to back Helen on the wet blanket approach. It's not that the list >wishes to be narrow, but there's a lot of general info on East African >Lake cichlids, and it can be very hard to get info on South American or >West African dwarf species. It goes with how hard it is to get these >fish in a lot of places. >I imagine it must be frustrating for a lot of hobbyists on the list to >see it isn't about dwarf cichlids from everywhere. It's been an >eye-opener to see new names jumping into this thread. At the same time >though, this list exists to discuss one group of cichlids. It's not a >snob thing because they're rare, it's a result of there being few places >where one can discuss and learn about these creatures. I think the list >has to remain specialized and get away from 'off topic' fish. >I Promise I won't ask about the Russian guy's Discus any more if >everyone else takes the Tanganyika thread to a Tanganyika list... :-) >-Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!