Mike, You can take my pike IDs to the bank but NOT my Apisto IDs. Actually, you did help me with the ID of this fish back in May 99. This is what you had to say: "Your photo of A. cf. resticulosa is very unusual. It looks like a male of the resticulosa-complex, but it appears to have extensions on the top and bottom of the caudal fin! I know of no regani-group species with such a tail! The head looks very much like that of A. sp. Blaukopf (Blue-head) found in the Mayland & Bork book. They list it as a domestic form of A. caetei. Both your fish and A. sp. Blaukopf look very much like the same fish listed in a Japanese book (Aquarium 2300 Atlas) as A. sp. New Blue. The author claims it is a cross between A. caetei & A. resticulosa. I think this is what you have." In August 99, Ingo Koslowski wanted some pictures and we started talking Apistos and this is what he had to say: ...and your cf.resticulosa seems to be the fish called Wangenflecken-Ap. in the german hobby (several times misidentified as A.resticulosa). It comes from the Ilha de Marajo at the mouth of the Amazon. Mike, I will add your comments to the web page tonight. Vinny (http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/resticulosa.html) that he ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!