I was told that these fish are imported from somewhere Far East. I actually picked up a few males and the only female in the tank...this was back in Sep-Oct 1990. Someone must have let a female slip in. I got a spawn out of them but it was in a planted community tank and I lost the fry to predation...or so I thought. I was moving a couple months later, so I tore down the tank and gave the adults to someone. I didn't set up my tanks after I moved for a few months but I was in Central Florida back then and since it was summer, I left the tank outside. One little Wangenflecken apparently survived in the little bit of water and gravel that was in the tank while being moved. It survived and made it into another planted tank after I discovered him. Guilt ridden, I gave him all my love, brine shrimp and mosquito larvae. He grew to two inches and it was time for me to move again. This time, I put him in a 55-gal tank with some juvenile Uaru, whom the little apisto began pushing around...a habit he never outgrew even after the Uarus grew to 8 inches. I had him for three more years, when he died at the ripe old age of 4 and a half. Vinny (http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/5491/resticulosa.html) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!