Ramblings.. No John. Observations of behaviours are about as important as anything else in the hobby, or academia. And as relevant to the genetic make-up of the fish as anything, be the behaviours truly genetically acquired or the ability for them to be learned. Whither they are used at the moment to assist in describing a species or not at the moment is probably a side issue (I'd put money on it that in time it will come - well for sub-species anyway). Akin to the body colour changes, I've also noted that body posture and fin angles also play their part in the fry movement responses during the first week or so, particularly with the "fry hit the dust now" danger signal. With body colour change only; the fry move slowly to the bottom of the tank, If accompanied with a static body and fully erect fins; they go down like they were vacuumed to the bottom. With the "come to me gesture" I've noticed the brightening of colours, when there is little presumed threat, and this seams to be used just to move the fry to another desired location. If this is accompanied by a circling twitching motion with erect fins the fry show more urgency in moving close, and generally the adults tend to presume more of a threat when this movement is employed. The "don't follow me I'm off to deal with the threat" signalling I'm not so sure of though, I've scene this happen with the parent still in the colouration from the "fry hit the dust now" stage, though the initial departure angle of the fish is practically always upwards, rather than downwards or at the same level, even if after a couple of inches the fish readjusts to go down to the bottom of the tank. Who knows, maybe they have a three word baby-language; to-me, hit-floor, and NOW!..;-) Scot ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http: //academy.star.co.uk/public/virustats.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!