Scott, Jason's is great. I try to go there when I am in town. I know some of the apisto breeders use to only bring in their fry exclusively to him. There was another store I found....15 or so minutes away that sold a lot of P. taeniatus for really cheap.....orange sign, ?Nippon Goldish, I think. But Jason's tanks were great. On someone else's note, heavily planted tanks are definitely the way to raise multiple spawns. Wish I could have seen Brian W. tanks. I have heard for years now. Kathy On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Scott Olson wrote: > Ah, Ocean Aquarium! I just returned from a short (one day) business trip to > SF, and Ocean Aquarium was recommended by Steve Waldron - thanks again, > Steve! > > It is so refreshing to go into a fish store that actually specializes in > dwarf cichlids! When I was there, Justin had the following apistos (that I > can remember): > > A. pulcher > A. Nijsenni > A. Agassizii > A. Borellii emerald form > A. cacatuoides double red - the nicest male cacatuoides I've ever seen! > A. viejita II > A. sp. four-stripes > A. gibbiceps > a species (I can't remember the handle from the Aqualog) - in the 'rotpunkt' > group or complex, in which the males guard the fry with as much dedication > as the females, and become even more brightly colored when doing so. I > didn't know yellow could be so yellow, or black so very black! I'm still > kicking myself for not bringing this one home! And this after having kept > 'Puerto Narinos' for so long and breeding them so much, I don't care if I > never see another one! > > There were other DC's available as well, and probably a few apistos I've > forgotten. Justin actually apologized to me for not having a better > selection! He said usually he has more things to offer! > > I got away with a nice trio of agassiziis and a pair of four-stripes. These > last are very iniridae-like. Two things that all these pertensis-group fish > have in common is a general lack of bright coloration, aside from a little > blue spangling, and fabulous dorsal and ventral fins. I've learned that you > can't really judge apistos until you get them home and can really see them > 'strut their stuff'! > > Many of those fish that Justin had were breeding in his well-planted tanks. > In the Viejita tank, for instance, there were fry from newly free-swimming > to about 1" in length. > > Seeing Justin's tanks, the way they were set up with so many beautiful > plants and several ages of apistos swimming about, made me think back on > Brian Wolinski's apisto tanks of a decade ago. Sorry if I keep bringing the > 'great one' up, but, to me, Brian was THE apisto-keeper! And it sounds, > Dan, like your Agassizii tank is a lot along the lines of the 'Wolinski > method'. Brian would have several broods of young going in a single tank, > along with the parents, at any given time. There was so much cover in the > form of dense plants, rocks and driftwood, that there was never any > noticeable aggression problem. > > There are a couple of problems in your case, though. A 10-gallon tank just > won't support all that many fish, especially as the fry grow out. On the > other hand, how do you successfully remove an earlier brood with all the > plant cover for the little fish to scoot into? Your parent fish will very > possibly 'murder' a few of the earlier batch, but they may not get very many > of them. > > I guess if it was me, I'd leave things as-is until the current batch is > three-to-four weeks old, then remove parents and the dithers to another tank > and let the young ones grow out for a while in the 10, although you'll want > to change a lot of water in the mean-time! If you have 50 or 60 fry in > there, they'll eventually need more spacious quarters! > > Scott > > >On another topic: My aggies have bred again. They are in a very densely > >planted 10 gallon tank with some Corydoras hastatus and a couple of > >serpae tetras as dithers. I know these guys are considered less than > >ideal as dithers, but these two seem to work out great. They have > >perfect dispostions, stay away from the side of the tank where the > >female and fry hang out, and I have had them forever. Anyway, in the > >tank are the month or so old youngins of an earlier brood of the aggies. > >They are able to hide out in the dense growth. Today I was watching > >them, and the female came out with a cloud of 30 or so new fry. Is there > >any way I can leave the new fry in there, or must I remove them to > >another tank. I can remove the gravel from a 5 gallon and devote it to > >the fry I suppose. The female tries to chase her earlier brood, but > >those kids are really quick. > > > >-Dan > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > >Archives"! > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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