Until recently I had 6 A. cruzi F1s in my 20 gallon standard dimesions tank. 2 males and 4 females. My goal was to thin them out to a pair or trio in the near future and try to get some F2s. They beat me to it. About 3.5 weeks ago the dominant male allowed one of the females to take over a pot in his terratory. Previously, he kept the other fish out of his 2/3 of the tank. A week later there were 8 free swimming fry. A few days later two more females were guarding pots. One pot was obviously in the terratory of the dominant male but the other one was kind of on the border and the female protecting it seemed to somewhat tolerate the subdominate male nearby so I give it a good possibility that he got in on the action. Yesterday there was one more batch of free swimming fry , about 20 I think. Today, one more batch that I wasn't able to count. Also as of today the first batch is no longer protected by the mother. These fry are about 7-8mm now. The females protecting their fry also seem to tolerate the older fry (i.e. they don't chase them away when they are close). These fish have been sexually mature for a while yet they showed no inclination to spawn. Then all of a sudden three spawns. It has been a very dry winter here in California. Until a month ago anyway. It seems like as soon as it started raining these three females colored up and started spawning. Does anybody think there is a link? I was kind of surprised they spawned at all given the somewhat crowded conditions (6 A. cruzi no dithers). Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!