I know this will ruffle some feathers, but maybe it will save someone else some grief. There was a post to this group over a year ago called "Desperately Seeking Hongsloi". This was aimed at me and I responded by sending fish out before receiving funds. Big Mistake. After a year of hounding I received this response. <your check is in the mail, now would you kindly piss off... and btw <your A. <"hongsloi" were hybrids that were properly culled...thanks < < Steven J. Waldron < < http://WWW.ANURA.ORG < "Natural History, Captive Husbandry, Conservation and < Biophilia of Tropical Frogs" 1.Be Very Careful With Who You Deal With 2.Get The Money First 3.Get The Money First For anyone that this offends, my apologies. Tim Ellis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!