Lisa...........I'm afraid the pH for A. norberti will have to be a bit lower. Mine 2-3 years ago I think needed the range in the high fives but pay more attention to the hardness..........make it soft. My male had an very long extension also. Mike Mike Jacobs Center for Advanced Technologies Lakewood H.S. St Pete, Fl 33705 mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisa Brinkman <lisab@netrover.com> To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Apisto survey In my male this section of the dorsal > is greatly extended. Very pretty in my opinion. Is it possible that > it's age related? I do have a few pics of them but not the best, the > colours get washed out. (most likely my picture taking skills) The > male always displays until I want a picture of him showing off then he > goes and hides. I'm just hoping the eggs will hatch since I haven't > really played with the pH much and it's not the recommended below 7. > Guess I'll find out soon enough :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!