I'd be more than happy to help with line drawings, as well. Someone mentioned the drawings in the German L&S as being a good tool. I never found them to be so because: The ones that are any good are just traced copies of the photos aready in the book, and provide little in the way of diagnostic markings, other than those clearly visible on the photos. Look at the drawing of Eunotus, for example...pretty much bereft of ANY identifying marks. Some of them are wild guesses drawn from the original scientific description, and tend to be way off the mark - look at the drawing of Elizabethae, for example, and the female 'Hoignei'. Anyway, I think we can do better. Regards, Scott Olson Lee, if you're reading this between >moving your tanks to your new house, you know someone who likes to draw >cichlids. Hint. > >Vinny > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@listbox.com. >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >Archives"! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!