Gabriella (and anyone else with an opinion), I lost another male Ram this morning - down to one female live caught who is now probably the fish equivalent of Typhoid Mary. > First question: did you quarantine the Paduros? I stupidly floated the Panduros in the 20 gallon tank that my Rams were in before releasing them in a separate, bare, quarantine tank. I may have gotten foreign tank water in the Ram tank. > Second question: Are you feeding any live food to your fish? I feed my Apistos, and occasionally my other non-Apistos why eat pellets Sally's frozen live foods: brine shrimp, glass worms and blood worms mostly. Although, my Rams got Wardley's Cichlid Mini Pellets as their staple diet (and were thriving on it). > Third question: What is the active chemical in the various Maracyns that you > are medicating with? Maracyn: 200 mg of erythromycin per tablet Maracyn Two: 10 mg Minocycline per tablet Maracide: Tris (hydroxymethyl) aminomethane, Dibromohydroxymercurifluorescein, Aniline Green CopperSafe: copper. I used all products simultaneously (recommended) with the recommended dosages and for the recommended duration (to avoid creating resistant strains of bacteria in the tank). > Would you say that your cacatoides and other sick fish are acting like they > are 'paranoid'? Are the hiding but do they lash out at any fish that comes > near them? Not paranoid, just out of it. The Rams seemed to have buoyancy problems and would bounce off of objects in the tank. The Cacatuoides are just plain hiding. I have a couple clay 'caves' - you may have seen them - they look like little hollow mounds with small openings for fish to enter. Anyway, my big male Cacatuoides has been hiding in one of them for 2 days. I have another female who just sits in the corner. I am concerned because it seems similar to what happened before the Rams started dying. The Cacatuoides are normally very active and are constantly displaying. Help! - Chad ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!