Phil, I kept Jewels with Kribs about 10 years ago, and it worked out fine ... Until the jewels started to spawn. I had them in a 30, and they started really tearing up the kribs mercilessly. Then I moved them all to a 75 with alot of structure and cover. They did just fine. In fact, I raised batches of fry from the jewels, Kribs, Rainbow chiclids, and Convicts all from the same tank, at the same time. (I pulled the fry at 1 week free swimming.) The Convicts were the meanest of the bunch, and I eventually had to remove them, but since there was quite a bit of room, they seemed to get along okay. I even had austrailian rainbows in the tank, and a few of their fry actually survived to adulthood. I didn't even know they were spawning! Now, I appreciate the individual species more in their own tanks with a few dithers. They can relax a little more and show their stuff without the threat of an intercontinental cousin beating the tar out of them! They are all great fish though. Too bad you can't have all that color in the same tank! By the way, if you have a pair in there, chances are they will spawn eventually, almost inspite of how the water is! Phil Eaton ----Original Message Follows---- From: "gooch" <gooch@tznet.com> My jewels are very docile even though they are twice the size of the kribs. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > Subject: Re: What's the point !! ph etc. > > > Hi, Phil > > I've had rams and kribs both spawn for me at pH of 7.4 or higher and had > good success, and even raised both fry together for a while > (until the kribs > took over). > > It's mixing them with the jewels where you may have a problem. > > Take Care > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gooch <gooch@tznet.com> > > > I was wondering if I could put blue rams in with my jewels and > kribs.. My > > tank is a ph of 7.3 > > > > I know the rams prefer slightly acidic water but if my fish are bought > from > > the LFS.. who really doesn't have any tank that isn't at least > 7.5ph. Says > > his fish are from loacl breeders that use tap water.. What's > the point of > > all the worry if I'm not going to breed them?? > > > > Thanks > > Phil ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!