>Gabriella, what size is this tank ? >Scotty >Philadelphia Area Betta Society Rather large. 120 gallons. I call it my 'ecosystem with a little help from a friend'. I know this has certainly nothing whatsoever to do with dwarf cichlids, but I need some suggestions. There is an adult Satanoperca leucosticta in the tank. She's got big eyes that see _everything_. I want her out of there and in with three others of her kind in another tank. She has her own hideout under a piece of mopani wood. If I get anywhere near the tank with a net, she disappears and slinks around under various pieces of wood. I do not want to destroy the tank to get her out and was thinking that maybe nighttime may be a good time to nab her. I have made a 'curtain' that I use to divide other tanks when I take out fish. I use it to isolate a breeding pair in order that other fish won't be chased into the parental territory. It's a piece of polyester chiffon rolled up on a half inch dowel and weighted down on it's free end with stones sewn in along the bottom edge. I was thinking that I could lower this in order to isolate her to one third of the tank and then maybe using a flashlight illuminating from the side of the tank be able to net her. I do have some larger cichlids who do sleep at night so that removal is very easy. But I'm not sure if this particular species gets as docile after lights out. This is all very complicated. Does anyone have any other ideas? Gabriella ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!