hmm.. that's strange.. if i place a bag of peat fluval vs. the fluffy stuff.. the water stains darker and faster with the fluval peat.. but I'll try to put in in a aquaclear to see what happens Thank You Raymond Wong Please Visit My Aquarium Page : (adding more pix everyday) (Pictures of my fish,plants,tanks) http://welcome.to/myapisto ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!