Bill, I thought that I should comment on this question. A. gibbiceps is usually found in the middle Rio Negro between the Rio Branco & Rio Uaupés. A. agassizii has been found in the lower reaches of the Rio Negro, but is replaced in the Anavilhanus Archipelago by a different agassizii-complex species, A. gephyra. Mayland's photo of "A. agassizii Santarém" in the Aqualog book is not A. agassizii. It is A. gephyra (or something close to it). It probably is the same fish Römer reports as A. gephyra from Lago Jurucuí near Santarém. My guess, without seeing your fish, is that you have a group of A. gephyra from the Rio Negro. I go along with Gary about names on fish. If it hasn't descended from stock that originated in an absolutely, positively, expressly recorded collecting location _ do not _ give it a population name. Because it is an export station, there are probably a half dozen aggie populations with "Santarém" in their names. Just list species with unknown location as whatever species it is and leave it at that. This is especially true with A. agassizii where I feel that we are dealing with a superspecies - a grouping of several closely related sibling species (semispecies) that can interbreed in the aquarium but don't have the opportunity to do so in the wild. There are those who consider A. gephyra to be the ultimate expression of a semispecies within the A. agassizii superspecies, but this is taxonomist fodder, nothing worth worrying about. Mike Wise Bill Phillips wrote: > Hello from Australia and hoping that someone can shed some light on a wild > apisto pair that I was fortunate enough to obtain as a contaminant. > > A shipment of apisto gibbiceps came into the wholesaler and my LFS found > some Apisto agassizii (about 3 pairs) in the shipment. The problem then > arose as to what strain the fish is - comparing with the AQualog catalogue > suggests the strain is "santarem". > > My question (crossing my fingers) is whether gibbiceps is localised in a > particular area which may shed some light on the possible agissizii strain. > Probably just my luck that gibbiceps is widespread in its distribution. > > Many thanks for any help > > Bill Phillips > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!