I can't remember who mentioned it, but digitalis,although it is _extremely poisonous_, has been used in the treatment of heart problems for many years :). In reality, too many people who should know better, denigrate the idea of natural medecines while at the same time using medecines derived from natural sources. I'm not saying that all natural remedies are good/bad/indifferent, just that each medication/tonic should be measured by its efficacy, not by whether it comes from a list titled "natural", "chemical", or even "biological" (hear that soap powder manufacturers?;-)). BTW I noticed that America is now spending _considerably_ more on medication because the drugs companies have switched their advertising targeting from doctors to patients! (i.e. don't aim your product at people who understand it but at people who use it). Colin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!