Which reminds me, it's worth mentioning that, in many coutries, products made from "natural ingredients", don't have to go through the same testing processes as those that are synthesised. Don't get me wrong, I'm not damning anything, just passing on some information that many people don't know. Colin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!