Hi, I don't care who's mad. "Dart frog" raised a commercial question. This is a non-commercial list. I think we have a consensus that whether related to Apistogramma or not, commercial questions have no place on this discussion list. Let's move on and not judge anyone on points we have agreed in the past are not our domain as a list. -Gary Elson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!